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Old 01-06-2017, 02:45 PM
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In this day and age of Conglomerates when one company owns multiple venues it actually makes very little sense to flat out cancel a show when you could just move the show to a network where the show would make more sense

It's been a great three seasons for Girl Meets World but half the show is missing.

Boy Meets World originally aired on ABC and while Cory and Shawn were the heart of the show and the main source of story their parents were real people with real problems. The bad kids in Shawn's neighborhood when they were bad were "real" bad in that they were poor kids trying to catch a break the only way they knew how by breaking in and stealing things they couldn't afford.

People stumbled fell, adults made the kind of jokes that parents make to amuse other parents while flying over the head of their kids.

ABC is a family network prime time shows are generally designed to appeal to a broader audience allowing the whole family to watch together.

The Disney Channel is a Teen Only channel where even the adults that are there act less like how adults act and more like how kids think adults act.

The problem is that ignores half of what made Boy Meets World good. As a kid you can relate to Cory's issues with his parents constantly feeling they just don't get how epic his problems truly are. As an adult rewatching you finally see the other side and you realize "Yeah you are kind of tired after a day at the office and maybe my kid's issues with his older brother wanting to take a girl to the ball game instead of him aren't as world shaking as I thought" But the adults still take the time to help their kids and be there for their kids.

Because of the Venue while not as much Topanga and Cory still get the "Disney Parent" treatment of even their very real very adult problems get turned into a problem for the kids to solve. Senate election, have the kids solve it, teacher might get fired, solved by the kids. Promotion of a beloved teacher. Kids.

Sure we hear that it was the parents who did the heavy lifting of pressure on the school board but we don't see it. We see the kids trying to save the art program but not the adults. Sure the immediate families fine but mostly kids.

Alan Matthews painted a fence, fixed a sink and ran back to a store time and again thanks to a semi incompetent assistant manager who was fine at work unless a crisis happened.

Amy Matthews worked as a real estate agent and would be sitting around working on listings or coming in from a job all while gushing about her oldest son getting his license so he could help with the driving.

In Boy Meets World there were problems the kids couldn't solve, situations they couldn't get themselves out of where their parents had to step in and help them out. In Girl Meets World the kids even arrange a trip to Texas that their dad didn't know about until the last minute and went on without any actual indication they were getting permission to do so.

(Last minute can we go doesn't count for a trip to the other side of the country)

So I argue that especially if you have a show like this where it's a sequel to a highly successful show instead of saying "Oh well this isn't working"

Maybe look at why? Could it be the Nerfed Parents or the Super Kids? Could it be that no one actually knows when the show airs because it keeps taking multiple weeks off and airs on a channel notorious for just playing a new episode "whenever"

What if everyone were a tad more realistic. What if we put back in the jokes that fly over a kid's head while amusing the adults? What if it airs every Friday at a set time and only takes breaks when the rest of the shows do?

What if it aired on ABC?

Then you would have a hit.
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Old 01-07-2017, 06:19 PM
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I'd say it's closer to the nerfed parents being the issue than where it is shown, actually. Why? Because fundamentally, when a show has kids acting like adults, it often strikes a false note with even the target audience- that is, the "kids" in the show seem more like adults pretending to be kids. In some ways, adults should be something of a Deus Ex Machina- the plot comes either from trying to sort the issue out yourself, or in trying to convince whatever adult is appropriate to intervene. When an issue that really should be "convince dad" is instead done as " deal with it yourself" the show suffers from the lack of realism.
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Old 01-08-2017, 04:07 AM
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Yeah, Disney Channel was great for the Junior High seasons (1-2), but starting at the High School season (3) they should have moved it to Freeform (another member of the ABC family of networks) or even "promote" it to ABC (does ABC do comedies anymore?).
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I'd say it's closer to the nerfed parents being the issue than where it is shown,
Right but those are connected you can't have one without the other. Each network is designed for a specific market and writers are forced to cater to that market in their writing.

The parents wouldn't be nerfed it if was on ABC or even on Freeform because those markets are designed for whole families not just teens and the writing reflects that. The network a show is on will largely influence how it's written and whom it's written for.

HBO for example is a network that is expensive. As such they cater to people of a certain socio economic structure and the original shows they air tend to reflect that. While those shows may also appeal to other markets their primary focus is a wealthier class of people.
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Even though I was the last responder this is worthy of a new post. There was an interview done with Ryder Strong who mentioned that him and Michael Jacobs had discussed how they were able to push the envelope with Boy Meets World because they were on ABC and they had to pull back some because Disney wouldn't let them go some places due to the Network the show was on.
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