No = Rude? (Cross posted from CS)

[catcul]

Originally Posted by YamiNoHime

Do these lyrics count as a case of no=rude?

"Saturday morning jumped out of bed and put on my best suit
Got in my car and raced like a jet, all the way to you
Knocked on your door with heart in my hand
To ask you a question
'Cause I know that you're an old fashioned man yeah yeah

Can I have your daughter for the rest of my life? Say yes, say yes
'Cause I need to know
You say I'll never get your blessing till the day I die
Tough luck my friend but the answer is no!

Why you gotta be so rude?
Don't you know I'm human too
Why you gotta be so rude
I'm gonna marry her anyway
(Marry that girl) Marry her anyway
(Marry that girl) Yeah no matter what you say
(Marry that girl) And we'll be a family

Why you gotta be so rude

I hate to do this, you leave no choice
I can't live without her
Love me or hate me we will be boys
Standing at that alter
Or we will run away
To another galaxy you know
You know she's in love with me
She will go anywhere I go

Can I have your daughter for the rest of my life? Say yes, say yes
'Cause I need to know
You say I'll never get your blessing till the day I die
Tough luck my friend cause the answer's still no!

Why you gotta be so rude?
Don't you know I'm human too
Why you gotta be so rude
I'm gonna marry her anyway
(Marry that girl) Marry her anyway
(Marry that girl) Yeah no matter what you say
(Marry that girl) And we'll be a family

Why you gotta be so rude?

Rude

Can I have your daughter for the rest of my life? Say yes, say yes
'Cause I need to know
You say I'll never get your blessing till the day I die
Tough luck my friend but no still means no!

Why you gotta be so rude?
Don't you know I'm human too
Why you gotta be so rude
I'm gonna marry her anyway
(Marry that girl) Marry her anyway
(Marry that girl) Yeah no matter what you say
(Marry that girl) And we'll be a family

Why you gotta be so rude? (Oh, yeah, oh)
Why you gotta be so rude? (Yeah)
Why you gotta be so rude?"

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[jackfaire]

The lyrics are rude. Not because of the no.

Because of the question. This is my personal opinion and as such is a perfectly valid POV.

I will of course give my daughter advice when she wants it. If she dumps a guy because he makes her feel unsafe, happened, I will support her. If a guy comes to me and asks me for permission/blessing to marry her I will see that as rude.

Should he want me to like him? Yeah that's human. It's tough marrying into a family where most of them think badly of you. Should he seek my permission/blessing hell no and it's rude to ask. The only one that should be asking me if my daughter should marry the guy is my daughter if she's unsure and wants advice.

That's it. The guy asking puts his opinion of my weighing in on the same level as my daughter's if not above it. Her answer is literally the only one that should matter to him. He loves her he should want me and her to maintain a good relationship if she wants but he in no way should think or express that I do or do not have a say in her life.

The lyrics are rude because the guy acts like he gives a crap what her dad says and then gets pissy when he doesn't say what the guy wants him to say and declares the guy's opinion doesn't mean crap now. This is part of why it doesn't really matter.

It's like if someone wants Pizza for lunch has decided they're having pizza for lunch then asks me what I want for lunch, "We should get Chinese" "No screw you we're getting pizza" "Then why the hell did you even ask me?"

Only one possible answer I could give makes both parties happy every other answer leaves people feeling disrespected. If my opinion doesn't matter don't ask for it.