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Old 04-21-2018, 11:31 AM
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That's what this video asks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKYfarmt-N4

And it brings up an interesting question. What is "open minded"? Because a few of them answer the question with "no", and when asked for an explanation say that they're "open minded", so that's why they don't have Republican friends.

One lady even answers, "No, thank God".

Another lady answers "I wouldn't be friends with someone who's Republican". (Nice and "open minded" of you.)

One woman even answers, "You have to be open minded."

"Why don't you know any Trump supporters?"

"I don't know...I think people here are more open-minded." Then she has this gem: "I honestly don't know that much about politics."

Another woman, when asked, said "I don't tolerate it". The guy with her answered, "I don't want to." Yeah, real open minded diversity there.

Another answered, "We stay away from those people" (because apparently you can tell a Republican by looking at them).

First, how would you know if you had Republican friends unless they told you? You can get a general idea of someone's political leanings based on what they say, but you don't know for sure. I'm conservative and I have a friend who I'm pretty sure might be a socialist, or at least a "Bernie" style Liberal. I'm not ending our friendship over it. I know another guy who's probably libertarian with some conservative leanings. My wife and most of my inlaws are all liberal.

A good friend of mine might be Republican. I don't know. I've never asked him. We really don't have political discussions. We just hang out when we can, since he lives over an hour away from me.

I live in Red State Texas, in a county that's solidly red, but that doesn't mean that I can't/won't make friends that don't think like I do. So I'm around Conservative Republicans all the time. And despite what people might tell you, they're kind, down to earth people.

So, do YOU have any Republican friends?
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Old 04-21-2018, 03:28 PM
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Do me a favor. Go to NJ.com where I can go for local news. Read the comments and see what conservative "tolerance" looks like. NJ overall is a very blue state. But down here in South Jersey, it's redneck central.

Do I have Republican friends? Yes, plenty. Do I tolerate all their opinions? Nope. Fascist views cannot and should not ever be tolerated.
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Old 04-21-2018, 05:33 PM
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Do I have Republican friends? Yes, plenty. Do I tolerate all their opinions? Nope. Fascist views cannot and should not ever be tolerated.
And do you believe that only Republicans hold fascist views?
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Old 04-21-2018, 05:38 PM
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To be fair, i suspect that the result of that survey is a good example of "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics"- it's portrayed- and you took it as "democrats would end a friendship over someone supporting the Republican Party" when I suspect that had the survey been more detailed- so that you could identify at what point they'd end the friendship- you'd find that it's more a case of "I would end a friendship if they kept acting like a bigot (hence why they are taking about people being more open-minded)"- if it was cases like yours, I doubt they'd care.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:27 PM
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To be fair, i suspect that the result of that survey is a good example of "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics"- it's portrayed- and you took it as "democrats would end a friendship over someone supporting the Republican Party" when I suspect that had the survey been more detailed- so that you could identify at what point they'd end the friendship- you'd find that it's more a case of "I would end a friendship if they kept acting like a bigot (hence why they are taking about people being more open-minded)"- if it was cases like yours, I doubt they'd care.
That's fair, s_stabeler, but IIRC some women actually stopped having sex with their significant others if they found out their SO voted for Trump.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:58 PM
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That's fair, s_stabeler, but IIRC some women actually stopped having sex with their significant others if they found out their SO voted for Trump.
That's fair. Trump's a misogynistic pig so if a woman is unhappy their spouse supported him, that sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

Also, it's not like they owe their spouse sex in the first place.

As for do I believe liberals hold fascist views, I find them usually to have anarchist views which is just as distasteful to me.
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:42 PM
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No. I don't have any republican friends.

I don't have any black friends.

I don't have any white friends

I don't have any democrat friends.

It's a stupid question. Worded in a way to make you say no.

When you put the label before the word friends you want the person being asked the question not to think about their friends. You want them thinking about that label. You want them thinking about the current stereotypes. Most people are going to think over those things, "Racist, bigoted, deplorable" and go "god no I wouldn't" "I couldn't"

But if you asked "do you have any friends who voted republican" "would you have any friends that voted republican" and actually made it clear what you were asking you would get people that said yes. When asked why they would say things like "because they are open minded people that care about people. Their political affiliation doesn't define who they are and they don't always follow the current party leaders"

Surveys like that though don't want well thought reasoned answers to the question. They want a bunch of people who think of the worst aspects of the Label they were given and to give answers that make them seem dumb.

They were essentially asked "do you have friends that are bigoted and racist" and their answer was no.
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Old 04-23-2018, 01:46 AM
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They were essentially asked "do you have friends that are bigoted and racist" and their answer was no.
Because they think all Republicans are bigoted and racist.
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Old 04-23-2018, 03:16 AM
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I take videos like this with a grain of salt. They only show what they think will prove whatever point they're trying to make. I find it hard to believe that there weren't a few people who answered, "Yes, we don't agree on politics, but we're still friends."
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:30 AM
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I take videos like this with a grain of salt. They only show what they think will prove whatever point they're trying to make. I find it hard to believe that there weren't a few people who answered, "Yes, we don't agree on politics, but we're still friends."
Honestly, Mike, it wouldn't surprise me. And that's probably true.

But I do think it's interesting that the ones in the video that claim to be "open minded" basically said they refused to be friends with someone they didn't agree with politically. That doesn't sound "open minded" to me.
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