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Old 03-26-2013, 01:42 AM
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Well, now, I wouldn't go that far: if my next-door neighbor were keeping jaguars as pets, I'd share my opinion (and not just with them, but with animal control or whoever else would listen) whether it was asked for or not
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:10 AM
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That's legality. It and manners generally do not cross paths [beyond the polite tactic of not mentioning someone's child is on death row during tea].
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:05 PM
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People like these are the hardest to deal with. They sound like they are well meaning, but at the end of the day, their ignorance will lead to harm. Let's not dance around the issue, this is what they are teaching to children. Those children will be raised to believe that homosexuals chose to be gay, that they chose to reject "God's law", that can be changed. Will they see it as discrimination to refuse to hire someone who is gay? After all, it isn't discrimination to refuse to hire someone who is lazy, and what is a gay person but someone too lazy to overcome their 'gayness'? Will they see anything wrong in voting against equality laws? After all, it's not as if gay people actually feel love. And I don't think it is going to be homosexuals that are going to be the most hurt by this, those children will no doubt face problems in their life because of how they were raised. When that child discriminates against a homosexual because they believe that is what God wants, that same God isn't going to save them from facing the legal system that will likely by then have universally banned discrimination against lesbians and gays.
Though, I actually do see some hope in that pamphlet, I really actually do. "When a boy kisses another boy it just seems wrong." At least now they are admitting that really it comes down to "we think it's icky."
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:31 AM
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That's legality. It and manners generally do not cross paths [beyond the polite tactic of not mentioning someone's child is on death row during tea].
No, it's safety. Something illegal but reasonably harmless, if it's not too blatant, I might be inclined to pretend not to have noticed.

As for the post immediately above this one... the great thing is that many children raised to believe such things don't, and many who start out with that view nonetheless retain the ability to learn, growing out of it as they come to know real people different than their parents. And their parents will teach them what they believe whether they have a pamphlet to aid them or not.
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Old 04-01-2013, 02:19 PM
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Well, now, I wouldn't go that far: if my next-door neighbor were keeping jaguars as pets, I'd share my opinion (and not just with them, but with animal control or whoever else would listen) whether it was asked for or not
Not sure about jaguars but... big cats are often legal to have as pets. As long as the owner is following proper care etc.

Now sure some may say it's a "safety" issue, but saying "safety" doesn't necessarily mean the other person is doing something wrong.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:43 PM
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Not sure about jaguars but... big cats are often legal to have as pets. As long as the owner is following proper care etc.
I think that depends on where you live. Cause I don't think the county I live in now allows any type of large breed exotic animal as a pet. You have to get a special license to have one of those "feral" house cats of which I can't remember the name.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:37 AM
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[beyond the polite tactic of not mentioning someone's child is on death row during tea].
I'd pay ten bucks to see that!
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:02 AM
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The problem with this pamphlet is it dehumanizes people who are homosexual. When you dehumanize someone, you make it very easy to marginalize them and deny them their civil rights. This opens the door to all kinds of abuse from verbal to physical.

That's why the Southern Poverty Law Center labeled the organization that wrote the pamphlet (Mission America) a hate group.
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