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Old 03-05-2016, 01:13 AM
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This is in relation to my thread posted yesterday on CS.com

http://www.customerssuck.com/board/s...d.php?t=113934

One of the camera guys who works for Disco. Decker Watson has publicly asked on FB (at the request of Sig's cardiologist & Johnathan Hillstrand's doctor also) that anyone who sees either of them, out in public, at meet & greets, at the docks in Dutch to GENTLY BUT FIRMLY give both shit over using tobacco. I've shared it on my personal timeline on FB, link is below for those who want to refer to it, it's the first post on the page

https://www.facebook.com/JefafaDunHamManiac47

Now, I realize, folks are gonna do, what folks are gonna do & there's not much that anyone else can do about it except them (and only when they're good & ready). BUT, as someone who was devastated when Phil died (a death that btw, was completely preventable. He had been warned that the first PE was a warning & when, not if, it happened again he would not survive, then there's also the fact that he was NOT MEDICALLY CLEARED to be on the boat/at sea at that point to start with. The stroke actually happened at sea & the collapse later at the dock was a delayed reaction IMHO)

But on Decker's post, folks are arguing back & forth, some are saying "MYOB" & "nagging will only cause their blood pressure to skyrocket, which in Sig's case will cause another heart attack", which I think is complete BULLSHIT & others, myself included are saying "we have already been devastated once & we can't take watching yet someone else we care about deteriorate & die on national t.v again" (and those in that camp believe if we don't SPEAK UP, that it WILL HAPPEN AGAIN GUARANTEED..The MYOB camp claim that throwing Phil's death in their faces in an attempt to wake them up is cruel, um NO, IT'S CALLED REALITY!!!...I'm of the mind, I'll take that risk if it means we have them both for many more years to come. I mean, the Cornelia Marie has become a "shit show" in Keith's words since Phil died (and that's with all due respect to Casey), that boat's circling the drain & we don't want to see the same happen to the Northwestern or the Time Bandit

I just...I dunno...I don't know either of them personally, I'm friends on FB with them, I "know them" through my t.v & that's the extent of it, but I feel like if we fans present a united front, that MAYBE they'll think twice before lighting up..There's more being said, but this post is novel length already so...

Ya'll check out the comments, post your thoughts on here, good, bad & ugly, just please don't take it in Fratching direction (I'll link over there so we can take the ugly stuff there)

So, what say this awesome group?
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:29 PM
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Giving someone useful information they don't have, or may have forgotten, is helpful. Is it reasonable to think a smoker, especially one who's had medical issues because of their smoking, doesn't know it's bad for them? NO. So nagging them isn't being helpful; it's just being obnoxious.
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:45 PM
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The bigger problem with this is that asking the general pubic at large to target someone specific rarely ends well.
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Old 03-05-2016, 03:01 PM
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Graveskeeper, even if it's at the request of the doctors involved?

I mean, the docs have gotta figure that we fans have SOME sway especially for a show that was expected to last ONE season & is still going strong 12 YEARS later

HYHYBT, I see your point, I do, but I disagree. I mean, yeah there's likely to be one bad apple that walks up to them & gets aggressive about it (which to those folks I say, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!) but most of us would do it in such a way so's as to let them know we care what happens to them & want them around for a long time yet

I mean, look at Leonard Nimoy, he quit smoking 30 some odd years ago & still died from COPD, but at least he wasn't in his '50's when he died ya know?
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Old 03-05-2016, 03:38 PM
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The problem is that a) quite a few people will probably take it too far and b) I have relatives as stubborn as Sig. When they are nagged about something, they dig their heels in, and it makes them LESS likely to do something.

Oh, and I actually doubt the Northwestern or Time Bandit would have the same problems the CM is having should Sig or Johnathan die. The CM's problem is that they had no real succession plan should Phil die. (he had nobody who could take over for him- his kids weren't ready, and he had nobody lined up to take over the boat in the interim) while both the NW and TB have obvious successors- the NW has Edgar (or, in extremis, they could probably persuade Jake to return) while the TB has Andy, and I think Neal no longer works the deck, so could probably pitch in too.
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Old 03-06-2016, 11:27 AM
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My answer was *before* considering that there will be "bad apples." It is rude to nag. Do you go up to fat people and tell them "wow, you're fat! Quit eating so much, and it's OK for me to say that because I care?"
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Old 03-06-2016, 06:29 PM
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In the end, no matter what specialists or whoever says to nag them, unless it's the person themselves saying it, don't do it. It's 2016. EVERYONE knows smoking is bad for you and can kill you. It's their decision to do it. It's just going to piss them off, not accomplish anything, and then someone will get punched in the face for badgering them and they'll have it coming. It's one thing when it's someone you are close with. If you vaguely know of the person and want to say something, just keep your mouth shut and let them live their life even if what they are doing (smoking) is fucking idiotic.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:16 PM
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Graveskeeper, even if it's at the request of the doctors involved?
why exactly are the doctors sharing PRIVATE MEDICAL INFORMATION with the general public? I'd be questioning what ethics the doctor has since they're not only breaching whatever health privacy laws, but saying "hey harass and bully these people in public"

Remove the doctor and ask "is this ok?"
Because really, how can that even be considered remotely acceptable?
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:10 PM
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I have people in my life who smoke. People who I care about quite a bit, and it would break my heart to watch them get sick and die. With at least one of those people, there is valid concern for the effect it is having on her life and she is the one I care about the most. Despite that, I have no right to constantly remind her every time I see her light a cigarette. She knows how I feel about it and that I care and that's all I can do. If it wouldn't be right for me to constantly remind her not to smoke every time I see her doing it, why would it be ok for me to do something like that to someone I don't even know?
If it were something like the fans doing things online to make him know that they care and don't want him to die I don't think I'd see a problem with it. People approaching him whenever they see it or encouraging others to do so however, crosses that line between letting someone know you care/what your opinion is and trying to nag someone into living how you want them to. The doctor's opinion doesn't change any of that.
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Old 03-13-2016, 06:05 PM
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My boyfriend smokes. He knows I would prefer he didn't, or to use e-cigarettes (which science has proven has the same effect on the lungs as breathing air.) I know he's trying. He is buying the e-ciggs and using them, but every once in a while when things are just going really poorly he flips back to cigarettes. He's cut way down on them though.

I'm not going to jump on his back when he lights up a real cigarette, because if he is doing that I already know shit is happening and he doesn't need me on top of that.

Encouraging people to HARASS others on decisions they are making for themselves is not right. Especially if you are a doctor! You have a position of authority, and you are using that to rally people into something that is ultimately NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. It's 2016. No one believes that smoking is good for them in the long run.
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