Miss California?

[AFPheonix]

If the Nazi genuinely believes that Jews are subhuman, and isn't just parroting his superiors, then yes, his opinion is "correct" because he really does believe it. Opinions aren't wrong, but that doesn't mean they can't be immoral, misinformed, or absurd. It's just arguing over semantics. In this case, "correct" means "actually believed," not "moral" or "good".

No, correct means grounded in some kind of fact, especially if you are pretending that your opinion is remotely objective. Examples of those kinds of opinions are like the ones that have been used already, like Jews or blacks or whatnot. Those are not valid opinions because they have been disproven through objective measure. Obviously Jews are just as human as any other member of our species.

However, if we're talking about purely subjective opinions, like preferences between colors or flavors, then yes, you would have a valid argument.

Belief in an opinion doesn't necessarily give it validation, especially if the opinion itself is directly at odds with measurable and quantifiable data. Further, not all opinions are created equally. There are many opinions that are straight up shit, and not just because that's my opinion

[Sylvia727]

I'll admit that if the opinion is in direct contradiction with proven fact, then the content of the opinion is wrong and incorrect. However, the opinion itself is correct for that person.

[Boozy]

*YAWN*

We've veered far enough off topic. Why don't those of you interested start another thread called "What is an opinion?" instead of boring the rest of us to death?

[powerboy]

Also, on a side note: Perez Hilton can fuck off. I don't care that he's homosexual, I just think he's an ass.

Perez Hilton is an ass.

[smileyeagle1021]

Perez Hilton is an ass.

I was going to use stronger words to describe him... but that works

[Nyoibo]

I had no problem with her answer, depending on what the deffinition of marriage is in this context, I do believe in marriage being between a man and a woman, provided it's a religious marriage and that's what their doctrine teaches. I am opposed to the definition of "between a man and a woman" if it's a state marriage or civil union for legal reasons that it becomes state backed discrimination.

[AFPheonix]

Unfortunately, since she's allied herself with the likes of NOM ( The people who came up with that god awful "gathering storm" ad), I have a sneaking hunch she wasn't just talking about religious marriage.
Besides, it depends on the religion. Other, obscure religions will marry trees, animals, what have you. Liberal versions of Christianity have sanctioned gay marriage and wouldn't have a problem with performing the ritual.

[smileyeagle1021]

Liberal versions of Christianity have sanctioned gay marriage and wouldn't have a problem with performing the ritual.

*wave* I'm now a member of one such church... officially there is no policy, it's up to local clergy... and I think our new pastor (who I've yet to actually meet, yesterday was her first day and I had to miss it because a coworker was late *glare* ) would have no objections. I know in the introductory letter she sent out she mentioned how thrilled she was to be coming to a church with such a well developed Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors policy (imagine, Utah being an example for anything... yeah, I'm still in disbelief on that one).

[kiwi]

she has lost her crown offically now.

she can go suck lemons for all I care

[Seshat]

IMO, she's entitled to have her opinion.

IMO, the judges of the contest are entitled to be looking for someone who can express their personal opinion in a more diplomatic way.

If she wants to win a beauty pageant, she needs to learn what the rules - written and unwritten - are.


Some contests are even looking for a figurehead: someone who is willing to express the party line, and not their personal opinion. So yeah, maybe she could have lost because of that.

[AFPheonix]

From what I've read, she was already behind the front runner coming into that portion of the competition. The only way she would have pulled ahead was if she had done a flawless interview and the other girl drooled on the floor in response.

[IDrinkaRum]

she has lost her crown offically now.

she can go suck lemons for all I care

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/30700262/?GT1=43001

No, Kiwi, she hasn't lost her crown.

Donald Trump has officially said that she will be keeping her crown. And he also praises her for giving an answer that was so "unpopular" however, he did point out that Presient Barack Obama (a Democrat President) has said the same thing:

He wants civil unions but not religious unions

He opposes gay marriage, but is also against the government making it illegal

[AFPheonix]

Is this before or after the titty shots TMZ came out with this morning?

[IDrinkaRum]

AFPhoenix - as of 10:25 AM this morning, she gets to keep the crown.

[Greenday]

Is this before or after the titty shots TMZ came out with this morning?

Titty shots? Where!?