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  • #76
    And why do you feel it is a perversion? Do you have any reasons other than religious ones to feel that way?

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    • #77
      Anal sex is more dangerous for men. It involves bleeding and tearing, which can lead to easier disease transmission. Women don't seem to engage in more dangerous sex, but it's interesting how they often use dildos or other penis substitutes. It's like they want the stimulation that a penis would give them, but not the man attached to it.

      To me it seems better for a man to be with a woman, and a woman to be with a man, because the pieces fit.

      I know my viewpoint will always be in the extreme minority on this board, and I'm ok with that. I don't hate gay people. I work with gay people and get along with them ok, so I'm not homophobic or anything like that. I get upset when gays are targeted for hate crimes. They're usually about as nice or annoying as any other people. One of them did want me to take a picture with him at work while he was holding a purse and I politely declined.

      I still think that homosexual sex acts are not right though.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Rubystars View Post
        Anal sex is more dangerous for men. It involves bleeding and tearing, which can lead to easier disease transmission.
        Straight people have anal sex, too. Also, if it's so unnatural, then why is there a G spot in the anus? Also, even if it does present some dangers, why not let the people who have anal sex worry about that? I keep hearing about how conservatives believe in personal responsibility.

        Also, you say you do not hate homosexuals. Yet, at the same time, you don't want them to have the same opportunities and rights as you do. Sorry to be blunt, but that's pretty much what it boils down to.

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        • #79
          GWaS, if you define hate as just not wanting someone to have something, or not agreeing with someones choice, you live in a very hate filled world.

          Also, there's no g-spot in the anus, there are a crapload of nerve endings, and it is possible for the g-spot to be stimulated on the female, or the prostate on the male.
          Last edited by Nyoibo; 06-16-2009, 03:52 AM.
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          • #80
            I am not going to tell someone that they can't have gay sex. That doesn't mean that I have to think that it's perfectly normal or "Ok" for someone to do that. I don't think that it's normal or OK. I'm not stopping them from doing it, so I don't see what rights I would be infringing. I just don't agree with what they are doing.

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            • #81
              Human beings fight nature in every way.
              We are the poster child for unnatural.
              You want natural? Go back to the freakin' jungle alone and live off termites and dirt.

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              • #82
                As GWAS pointed out, straight people do anal too. Also, there's more than one way for a gay male to sex up another. Oral is popular too.
                Further, other animals engage in homosexual sex. Is that not considered natural, even though it's found in nature?

                I don't begrudge you or anyone else their views, but I do have a problem when those views affect what others are able to do in society. I can respect a person that doesn't agree with homosexuality and is still willing to allow them the right to a social contract to marry.

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                • #83
                  I don't have a problem with animals doing it because they are animals. I think I read one time that there are snakes that will put off the smell of a female even though they're male, to trick other males into "mating" with them. Then they will go after the real female and pass their genes on. Other animals like bonobos use sex for social bonding in the group and for hierarchy purposes.

                  Just because something is ok for an animal though doesn't make it ok for people to do. I think everyone would be pretty dumbfounded if a woman justified decapitating her husband after sex by saying "Well it's perfectly natural, praying mantises do it".

                  I don't think they should have the right to "marry" because by definition a man and a man or a woman and a woman is not a marriage. A man and a woman getting married is a marriage. That's simply how marriage is defined. When they demand spousal rights, etc. it affects my insurance premiums so it's not just me being mean about it. To me the idea of a man and a man or a woman and a woman getting together and saying they're married is about as silly as someone marrying their car and demanding that marriage be recognized by society.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Nyoibo View Post
                    GWaS, if you define hate as just not wanting someone to have something, or not agreeing with someones choice, you live in a very hate filled world.

                    Also, there's no g-spot in the anus, there are a crapload of nerve endings, and it is possible for the g-spot to be stimulated on the female, or the prostate on the male.
                    I don't define hate that way. However, I can't help but see a certain amount of irony when someone supports the denial of rights to a certain group, and then turns around and says that they don't hate said group. Don't get me wrong. I do believe them when they say they don't actually "hate" them (most of the time). But the irony is still there.

                    As for the g-spot thing, it's possible to stimulate arousal in that area. That was what I was getting at. It may or may not be defined as a "g-spot," though.

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                    • #85
                      I'm not denying them any rights. They can go have sex with each other if they want to. I just don't think they should pretend that this is the same thing as a man and a woman getting married and then demand that everyone else accept it as the same. They are infringing our rights when they start to demand that everyone else accept their lifestyle as normal and seek to legally legitimize it.

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                      • #86
                        Two people loving eachother and wanting the same rights as you is denying you rights?
                        That makes no sense. Heck you and your church can define wombat any way you want, but when you strip others of rights and try to enshrine it in law is when you go too far.

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                        • #87
                          Seriously, what gives any of us the right to an opinion when it comes to the gay lifestyle anyway? People keep saying "it's not right, it's a perversion" (and I'm not just saying this to single out Rubystars, there are a LOT of people in my life who have said almost the exact thing), but so what? Gay's aren't the only ones who like to get their kink on, you know.

                          So long as everyone involved is a consenting partner of legal age to be engaging in sexual activity, what happens in a neighbor's bedroom is none of mine or anyone else's business.

                          I'm not threatened one bit by the idea of gay marriage. I learned that it is up to my husband and I to uphold the sanctity of our marriage, and us alone. No one and nothing will ever sway me from this belief.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by guywithashovel View Post
                            Straight people have anal sex, too. Also, if it's so unnatural, then why is there a G spot in the anus? Also, even if it does present some dangers, why not let the people who have anal sex worry about that? I keep hearing about how conservatives believe in personal responsibility...
                            Quoted and bolded for truth.

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                            • #89
                              It's not so much their "Getting their kink on" as you so delicately put it, that I have a problem with, although I certainly don't condone such behavior. I don't think it's good for people to do that and yes, I do believe that it is morally wrong, but that's not my problem if they decide to do it. They're the ones that will have to face the health and moral consequences that come with it, so I'm not going to force them to stop in any way. If they decide to get it on with each other, it's none of my business, and that's how it should stay.

                              What I do have a problem with is that they take what should be a private matter between the individuals, flash it in front of everyone, and then demand that their actions be accepted as normal. If you don't accept them as normal and as being just the same as a straight couple, then you're a "homophobe", and a "bigot". They want to force little kids to learn about homosexual behavior in schools, at ages when they might not even know that boys and girls have different parts yet. The whole thing seems like an "in your face" attack. Then they scream that they're the ones being attacked and hated.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by guywithashovel View Post
                                As for the g-spot thing, it's possible to stimulate arousal in that area. That was what I was getting at. It may or may not be defined as a "g-spot," though.
                                The g-spot is a specific spot on a woman (or should that be in?) there's also a number of other spots.


                                Originally posted by Rubystars View Post
                                What I do have a problem with is that they take what should be a private matter between the individuals, flash it in front of everyone, and then demand that their actions be accepted as normal.
                                I'm gonna turn that around and say the exact same thing about hetero married couples

                                Originally posted by Rubystars View Post
                                They want to force little kids to learn about homosexual behavior in schools, at ages when they might not even know that boys and girls have different parts yet.
                                I don't believe in any sex ed until they're old enough to realize the difference between boys and girls and actually be interested in it, but given that homosexual behaviour is part of some peoples makeup I think that it needs to be addressed as well as heterosexual behaviour.
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