Miss California?

[Cat]

Gay marriage is legal in CT....and we're a pretty rockin' state.

No fire and brimstone, the nutmeg society hasn't crumbled, dogs and cats DO live together in peace, LI sound is still polluted, the Q and Amistad still sail.

In other words...business as usual

[Rubystars]

I believe that sinful behavior brings judgment upon a society. No, I'm not expecting "fire and brimstone" to reign down, but I do think that society will suffer in the long run if we openly embrace things like homosexuality as being normal and acceptable. This view is based in my religious background.

[BroomJockey]

I believe that sinful behavior brings judgment upon a society. No, I'm not expecting "fire and brimstone" to reign down, but I do think that society will suffer in the long run if we openly embrace things like homosexuality as being normal and acceptable. This view is based in my religious background.

What you continue to fail to do is present any actual reason why your view should be the preferred one. "It's my view" doesn't cut it on a debate site. I don't mean to be rude, but your continued refusal to actually back up anything you've said is equivalent to going "LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG." You're completely free to have your beliefs. But to state "My view is the correct one" isn't even trying. It fails the basic premise of a debate, which is that you're trying to convince someone else you're correct. It's been continually stated that there are multiple societies which are functioning perfectly normally with gay marriage as an accepted practice, so there's no immediate effect on society, in a bad fashion. But it's your claim that it's bad anyways.

I'm sorry, but on a site for debate, "My view is correct" doesn't even come close to acceptable reasoning.

[Cat]

You are allowed to have an opinion and religious views, Ruby. But you have no right to tell people they cannot live the life they choose, with whomever they want.

There are somethings in society I personally find distasteful (will not reveal for fear of derailing this thread) yet I will NEVER tell someone they have no right to do said "something." It is their right, and does not effect me.

If a society is so weak and pathetic that people loving each other will bring it down....then I have no need for such a society.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

I believe that sinful behavior brings judgment upon a society. No, I'm not expecting "fire and brimstone" to reign down, but I do think that society will suffer in the long run if we openly embrace things like homosexuality as being normal and acceptable. This view is based in my religious background.

I'm very sorry, but if you could please PROVE IT. As broom said, LALA IM RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG doesn't count as debate. No evidence? no validity.

[Rubystars]

As I said before, it hasn't happened yet, but we will have to wait and see what happens. At any rate your side does seem to be winning. I can't prove something that hasn't yet occurred. I do think that if morals continue to degrade that society will degrade with it. Several decades ago you used to be able to walk in a city without worrying too much about being attacked and killed. Not so today. Sometimes I wonder if this is a direct result of the moral looseness of modern society.

[Cat]

High crime rates can have many reason, not just the percieved "loosening of morals," which again, is an opinion

[Rubystars]

High crime rates can have many reason, not just the percieved "loosening of morals," which again, is an opinion

Yes it is an opinion, but I think many things contribute to it, but that may be at the heart of it.

[Cat]

Ok, I can't type or think straight (pun not intended), so I'll bid you guys g'night.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

As I said before, it hasn't happened yet, but we will have to wait and see what happens. At any rate your side does seem to be winning. I can't prove something that hasn't yet occurred. I do think that if morals continue to degrade that society will degrade with it. Several decades ago you used to be able to walk in a city without worrying too much about being attacked and killed. Not so today. Sometimes I wonder if this is a direct result of the moral looseness of modern society.

Sorry to rain on your little parade, but crime is DOWN.

That's right, DOWN. It's people perception of every single act of violence that happens anywhere which has grown, distorted by the fact that it's obsessed over by the media. Nevertheless, violent crime, mass shooting, etc. are all DOWN.

Just thought I'd get some facts out there.

[linguist]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...&v=1&t=KJV#top
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so in answer to an assertion that christ never said anything about homosexuality, you give us paul's epistle to the corinthians? sorry, doesn't fly. these are paul's words, not christ's.

[Rubystars]

Ok, I can't type or think straight (pun not intended), so I'll bid you guys g'night.

lol, good night

[Rubystars]

Sorry to rain on your little parade, but crime is DOWN.

That's right, DOWN. It's people perception of every single act of violence that happens anywhere which has grown, distorted by the fact that it's obsessed over by the media. Nevertheless, violent crime, mass shooting, etc. are all DOWN.

Just thought I'd get some facts out there.

I'm talking about crime now vs. several decades ago. I'm not talking about year to year fluctuations.

so in answer to an assertion that christ never said anything about homosexuality, you give us paul's epistle to the corinthians? sorry, doesn't fly. these are paul's words, not christ's.

All of the New Testament is important Scripture for Christians.

[JuniorMintz]

All of the New Testament is important Scripture for Christians.

AGAIN, you are avoiding the question. Why are you quoting PAUL when we said that CHRIST never talked about homosexuality?

[BroomJockey]

. Several decades ago you used to be able to walk in a city without worrying too much about being attacked and killed. Not so today.

Which decade? Looks like in 2005, the rate is nearly back to the 50s....