Should pharmacists be allowed...

[Peppergirl]

So - dunno! Not sure how I feel about it... Should the pharmacist have to give up a career because it contradicts other people's beliefs?? Should the people change their beliefs to coincide with the pharmacists??

Further up the thread (no one commented), I remarked that as a travel agent...would I have the right to turn away a gay couple going on a gay cruise if I were anti-gay? Also, would I have the right to pawn the couple off on another co-worker (thus, creating work for them), if my beliefs prevented me from helping them?

By the same token, if I was booking someone to fly somewhere to get an abortion, would I have the right to refuse to book them if I were pro-life?

I just can't wrap my head around this.

[AdminAssistant]

Yeah. With my insurance plan, it's much cheaper for me to get my pills at the student health center's pharmacy than other places in town. What if the pharmacist there refused to give me my pills? Should I have to go across town and pay more? It's just ridiculous.

[AFPheonix]

Maybe you could read each other's books and then discuss them, but I don't know if she'd be able to do that or not. I used to debate with creationists in a chat room a lot and one of the things I learned is that most of them don't have the vaguest idea what evolution is or how it works. That's why they're so against it.

Transitional fossils like Lucy and Acanthostega were what really convinced me, in addition to adaptive radiation. I was really happy because I got to see Lucy when she was in Houston and I left a note in the book at the Museum where guests could leave comments.

I've seen books like hers before, I grew up as a conservative evangelical so I totally understand where she's coming from. I was similarly brainwashed. Most of the books of that ilk are intentionally misleading and propaganda.
Further, it's not appropriate to be evangelizing at work like she does, and I've complained to my pharmacy manager and she shrugs. It's not like I'm a fan of Dawkins or anything, frankly I think he's an asshole, but so help me, I will go out and buy his crap and give it to her if she pulls it again.

[daleduke17]

I don't have a problem with birth control or emergency contraception because I think these medicines prevent abortions. I do have a problem with abortion medicine and I would not hand something out like that.

Then, if you were a pharmacist, you should be terminated from your employment and possibly have your pharmacist license (if there is such a thing) pulled.

If the manager of a pharmacy decides to dispense a particular medication, they should have another employee that can do it so the person with moral or religious objections doesn't have to.

And you want to pay how much more?

Usually when I go to a pharmacy there is more than one employee working there.

And how many can actually dispense meds? Just because you work in a pharmacy doesn't mean you can dispense meds. If so, then I could have dispensed meds when I worked at Kroger.

[Slytovhand]

It's not like I'm a fan of Dawkins or anything, frankly I think he's an asshole, but so help me, I will go out and buy his crap and give it to her if she pulls it again.

Don't use Dawkins.

Use Davies.. he's walking the middle path, so can seem to be 'respectable' by both sides. Basically, 'God' created the universe, and then let it unfold for the next 16 billion years (he doesn't define 'God' though...so no particular religious overtones). And thus, it melds good science with ok theology.



Peppergirl, I think you can see why I didn't comment on your hypothetical. I don't think you should have the 'right' to refuse, but I'm not sure that someone should have the 'right' to force you to otherwise... for sufficient reasons. Anti-gay...no, crossing a line. Abortion, while there's still a line, it's in a different place.

Well, that's my opinion... for now... I might change it sometime soon

[Greenday]

Honestly, I feel it comes down to this: if you refuse to do your job, you don't deserve your job. It'd be like me joining the infantry, but saying I refuse to kill or something. Or like becoming a cop, but refusing to arrest people for drugs. It's your job, either you do it or you should be fired.

[Peppergirl]

Honestly, I feel it comes down to this: if you refuse to do your job, you don't deserve your job. It'd be like me joining the infantry, but saying I refuse to kill or something. Or like becoming a cop, but refusing to arrest people for drugs. It's your job, either you do it or you should be fired.

Amen and thank you!

[guywithashovel]

To expound upon what Greenday said, I'll say this. If you are against Plan B, contraceptives, or any of these other pills/treatments/etc. that social conservatives are so up in arms over, then simply do not use them. But don't use your status as a pharmacist to tell other people what they can and cannot take.

Note to social conservatives: Please keep your laws, religious beliefs, and regulations off our bodies, out of our medical decisions, and out of our bedrooms. Thank you.

[McDreidel09]

I would be pissed if a pharmacist refused to take care of my birth control just because it is birth control.

I don't use it as a contraceptive. I use it to regulate my body and hormones.

If some aspect of your job is against a personal belief, you have two choices either 1) Deal with it and do your job or 2) Find employment elsewhere.

You can still keep your core values. You are not giving up your morals by dispensing medication that is against your beliefs. If you practice the morals yourself, does it matter what others do?

[joe hx]

of course, if your pharmacist won't give out the meds, you can always go to another one...

what about doctors? should they be able to not prescribe birth control, for birth control, if they don't believe in it? should pro-life doctors be required to perform abortions?

[Rubystars]

I don't think a doctor should be forced to perform elective abortions, but a doctor should be absolutely obligated to perform an abortion IF it will save the mother's life, as in the case of a tubal pregnancy.

[Flyndaran]

of course, if your pharmacist won't give out the meds, you can always go to another one...

what about doctors? should they be able to not prescribe birth control, for birth control, if they don't believe in it? should pro-life doctors be required to perform abortions?

Many places have only one easy to get to pharmacy, so itsn't so cut and dried.

A doctor should prescribe what is in the patient's best interest regardless of thier hangups.
Abortion surgery is a specialty. I don't see how those not trained in them should perform them. Though I would hope an E.R. doctor would perform it if necessary to save the woman's life as not killing people is kind of in the job description.

[Greenday]

I don't think a doctor should be forced to perform elective abortions, but a doctor should be absolutely obligated to perform an abortion IF it will save the mother's life, as in the case of a tubal pregnancy.

There's a huge difference between the two you are talking about. A doctor that normally performs abortions chose their job. So a pro-life person choosing not to perform that surgery wouldn't have to deal with that.

As for doctor's not prescribing birth control, no, I don't think a doctor should be allowed to be a OB/GYN if they refuse to prescribe it.

[Rubystars]

I think birth control is usually a good thing and I don't think an OB/GYN should refuse to prescribe it either.

[Flyndaran]

I think birth control is usually a good thing and I don't think an OB/GYN should refuse to prescribe it either.

But isn't it a horrible unnatural affront to natural heterosexual sex?
I say that only half-seriously.