some things shouldn't be touched

[PepperElf]

http://www.creators.com/advice/annie...009-06-05.html

i figured this would jsut get locked out on the other site, though... i'd be surprised if anyone supported this controversial practice...


actually it's a bit surprising the dad admitted to it publicly, though he didn't share his real life name....

anyway.... he and his wife are in their late 40s, his wife has been too tired for sex so he's given up trying. and now he's getting aroused watching his 16 year old daughter and is having fantasies about her.

*insert puke emoticon*

[Rubystars]

It's bad enough that she's 16, but his own daughter? Ugh... how horrible.

[Nyoibo]

Those impulses are actually more common than you'd think, however it's how those impulses are addressed that is important, at least this guy's acknowledging the fact he has a problem.

[AFPheonix]

Jesus H Christ some people are screwed up. Go clean the kitchen dude, that'll probably get her revved up.

[BroomJockey]

I think that it's mostly a case of the dude's not getting attention from where he theoretically should be, so his subconscious turns to the next closest female. He knows consciously it's wrong, for oh so many reasons, but his daughter's probably huggier, or some such than his wife. I think if he manages to get his marriage in order, the problem would go away.

That or the dude seriously just needs to go out and bang a hooker.

[Flyndaran]

Evolution has pushed men to find young attractive females attractive. Preteding that isn't true is not healthy.
Saying such an uncomfortable truth in public is also not healthy.
Most people are itching to be vigilantes in some regard.

While the feelings may be normal, when they get so uncomfortable as to need help does suggest they might be stronger than average.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

Important to remember, as has already been said, that men are biologically wired to find young women attractive. The stigma of incest is a societal construction.

I therefore hold the opinion that incestuous thoughts are completely natural for those who have them, but again, as has been said before, it's the actions taken (or more importantly not taken *wink*) that are really important.

If you have incestuous or pedophile thoughts, and manage to resist/keep from acting on them... you're a better person than me. God knows I almost never go against my impulses (spending, eating, etc.)

[Flyndaran]

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If you have incestuous or pedophile thoughts, and manage to resist/keep from acting on them... you're a better person than me. God knows I almost never go against my impulses (spending, eating, etc.)

I doubt you would rape someone just because you find them attractive.
That's what pedophilia is, "simply" a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. I doubt it has any real correlation to a severly poor impulse control.
Besides, most child rapes are not done by pedophiles, just like most pedophiles don't rape children. Admittedly the few pedophiles that do rape children account for a disproportionately large percentage of all child rapes.

Also while one evolutionary trait makes incestuous thoughts common, there is also a weaker evolutionary trait to find it icky.
Bonobos have a strong instinctive dislike of mothers having sex with sons, but they like it in every other way imaginable.

[Boozy]

I doubt you would rape someone just because you find them attractive.
That's what pedophilia is, "simply" a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. I doubt it has any real correlation to a severly poor impulse control.

That's exactly the comparison I used this morning when talking to someone else about this. The vast majority of heterosexuals can control themselves around attractive members of the opposite sex. The average pedophile is no different.

Besides, rape isn't about sexual attraction. It is about violence, rage, and power.

[lovlybones]

maybe he could just go for one of his daughters friends so its not incest...

[BroomJockey]

maybe he could just go for one of his daughters friends so its not incest...

He's in his 40s, daughter is 16. Her friends are also likely 16. Statutory rape makes this a bad idea.

[AFPheonix]

Or maybe he can figure out why he and his wife have drifted apart, get their acts back together, and get some hot steamy action with her.

[Flyndaran]

That's exactly the comparison I used this morning when talking to someone else about this. The vast majority of heterosexuals can control themselves around attractive members of the opposite sex. The average pedophile is no different.

Besides, rape isn't about sexual attraction. It is about violence, rage, and power.

Some of the time it's about those things. But often it is about sex coupled with the rapist's not caring about others' feelings.

[violetyoshi]

It's no surprise, when women who appear to look like young ladies are plastered in billboard ads, and pornified by the media. This is the result of a society obsessed with the youth ideal, men's desires are screwed up because almost everywhere they look, there's something there displaying a 16 year old looking woman acting provocative.

The sooner we stop idealizing the ideal image of a female, as young and thin like a child, the sooner this will stop happening.

[Flyndaran]

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The sooner we stop idealizing the ideal image of a female, as young and thin like a child, the sooner this will stop happening.

You want to fight millions of years of evolution? Good luck.