General Animal Issues

[anriana]

I don't really have that much of a problem eating any animal, hell I'd have no problem eating human either. Mmm, delicious long pork.

Thanks for your highly relevant and in no way annoying or trite post!

[Cat]

I can't eat octipi and am not a fan of squid....my seafood is usually fishes, crabs, clams, and shrimps. (sushi)


When I DO get another cat...it will be an adult from a shelter....and I'm a sucker, I go for the "problem" (ie, sick, missing limbs, eyes) kitties.

Kittens rule, I love 'em....but I'll go for that adult cat. If I didn't have my two now, I'd consider getting a few FIV+ cats.

[Nyoibo]

The reasoning behind people being more concerned about baby animals than adults, physical appearance, one of the reasons baby animals look cute is that it brings out protective instincts in others of its kind, it also makes them look non-threatening so less things will kill them out of hand to eliminate a threat.

As to why some animals are eaten and others aren't? Social conditioning.

[Boozy]

Thanks for your highly relevant and in no way annoying or trite post!

My comment about octopi being scary is also irrelevant and silly, but so what? A little levity isn't such a bad thing.

As a general rule, if one finds a post irrelevant, one does not need to respond to it. You won't be docked marks or anything, and these posts will not be on the final.

[BroomJockey]

I'd prefer it if any animal cared for by humans for any reason was treated with an eye towards minimizing stress and duress for the animal, but I'm still gonna eat whatever animal I please. And if someone was to teach me the best way to slaughter an animal, I'd have no problems doing it myself. I don't have the disconnect most people seem to have. I know I'm eating severed muscle tissue which formerly aided the life of a cow, or pig, or chicken. It's called a food chain. Nature invented it, humans climbed their way to the top (in most cases. Super predators - sharks, tigers, et al - can and do take out humans. And the more power to them, I say). I'm not going to feel guilty over some animal being in my food chain. And if you could get decent meat of cats or dogs, I'd probably have no objection to them being on a plate either.

Now, if anyone REALLY wants to get upset about how food animals are treated, don't focus on the slaughter industry. After all, it's proven that treating the animals better gets you a better product. No, what you need to focus on is this: http://www.cracked.com/article_16951...und-world.html

[Nyoibo]

And if someone was to teach me the best way to slaughter an animal, I'd have no problems doing it myself...
*snippety snip*
No, what you need to focus on is this: http://www.cracked.com/article_16951...und-world.html

I can probably tell you and, damn that's some messed up shit.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

I think it's probably less about the fact that they are babies, and more about the fact that they are helpless.

I mean, take the box full of kittens in the middle of the road example I posted from the other thread. It wasn't that they were kittens so much as they were helpless animals trapped in a box, who could neither escape nor care for themselves even if they could escape. They immediately became the burden of the first caring person who happened along.

Same as the kittens in my yard. That wasn't the first time a cat with kittens sheltered under my deck during a bad storm. The first batch moved on after the rain, with no interference from me. It was just the first time one did that had kittens so young that they couldn't at least walk away from danger. They could not climb up on something out of the water, they were lying in mud and water, and in danger of either drowning of dying of hypothermia.

You can't just leave something helpless to die. Had it been an adult cat that, say, had a broken leg or something, it would have provoked the same rescue response.

Some people even carry bugs or frogs (and in a couple cases, snakes) outside instead of killing them. I'm one of these people. Those are neither cute nor cuddly. They're creatures that need a little help.

[BroomJockey]

I can probably tell you

No offense, but I'd rather be shown in person. I'm a visual learner.

[protege]

Thought I'd post this in here...since I'm curious as to what you all think...

What about an animal that's already been hurt? I mean, years ago, my father and his hunting buddies were driving home, and saw an accident. Some old woman had hit a deer. Not killing it, but with enough damage that it wasn't going to walk again. When they passed her, she was trying to beat the poor critter to death...with a stick.

They stopped, drew a rifle, and put it out of its misery. One quick shot was all it took. In fact, that's what hunters try to do. They want to take down the deer (or squirrel, bear, etc) as quickly as possible. They don't want to just maim it...and then spend hours following it through the woods as it dies. To do so, isn't sporting, and it wastes good food--venison is teh awesome

With that said, if it's meat, I'm probably going to eat it. I draw the line at cats and dogs though--I'm not sure my four-legged roommates would appreciate me eating one of them.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

I'd say it's a good thing they came along when they did.

[BlaqueKatt]

No offense, but I'd rather be shown in person. I'm a visual learner.

sadly I could probably show you anything you wanted to know-I grew up on a farm-I've slaughtered just about every edible quadruped(cattle, sheep, pigs, rabbits, deer, squirrels, raccoons, opossums), as well as chickens and ducks.

[BroomJockey]

sadly

Not sure why that's "sadly," sounds useful.

[anriana]

My comment about octopi being scary is also irrelevant and silly, but so what? A little levity isn't such a bad thing.

As a general rule, if one finds a post irrelevant, one does not need to respond to it. You won't be docked marks or anything, and these posts will not be on the final.

Thanks for your highly relevant and in no way annoying or trite post!

As a general rule, one should read an entire post before commenting on it.

[Flyndaran]

...With that said, if it's meat, I'm probably going to eat it. I draw the line at cats and dogs though--I'm not sure my four-legged roommates would appreciate me eating one of them.

Hee. Our cat Fireball would probably be ecstatic to eat another cat. She's all sorts of weird. She hates adult cats, loves dogs, but is scared bonkers by kittens. Even as a kitten herself she barely tolerated her own mother.

[LewisLegion]

I agree with the 'helplessness' factor of baby animals. A baby can do far less to protect itself than can an adult animal. An adult wild boar is dangerous and can defend itself…it’s got a fighting chance against a hunter, even one with a gun. A baby pig can do little in the face of a predator save run and cry…if they get grabbed they’re pretty much done for…no chance at defense against something much bigger and stronger.

Once I was in my apartment and I heard a cat crying outside. I went outside to find a young kitten (probably about eight weeks old) cornered by a battered old tomcat. I chased the tomcat off, rescued the kitten, and took it to the shelter (I had my own cats and couldn’t take in another one). Had I gone outside and found the battered old tomcat had cornered, say…another battered old tomcat, I’d probably have just chased them both off instead.

As humans our infants are helpless. It’s hardwired into most of us to protect the helpless because it helps us nurture and protect our own offspring. This ends up extending to other helpless infants as well (though if I saw any animal being restrained and harmed, be it a baby pig or a grown bear, I would probably interfere).