Messing with Married Women

[Rapscallion]

I have a certain sympathy with the viewpoint in that I won't go near children without company for fear of being labelled a paedophile. However, I don't believe that the fault lies in me, but in those who are doing the perceiving.

What are you doing about that?

Rapscallion

[Lace Neil Singer]

I NEVER said that.

It really hurts me to think that people I speak to think differently of me. I do think that married women and married men can have friendly relationships together.

Er, not all my male friends are married, you know. In fact, only one is married and that's my boyf's brother. Some of my male friends are, gaspitude, SINGLE! Oh noez!

I also will happily chat to a stranger all night if such a thing occurs, be they male or female. I don't really see what the problem is.

[Hobbs]

Er, not all my male friends are married, you know. In fact, only one is married and that's my boyf's brother. Some of my male friends are, gaspitude, SINGLE! Oh noez!

I also will happily chat to a stranger all night if such a thing occurs, be they male or female. I don't really see what the problem is.

All right, lemme re-phrase, since people are STILL not getting it.

I think that married people can have friendly relationships with single people. HAPPY?!

Did you even read Maggie's post? THAT is what I was talking about.

[blas87]

I too, agree with you. But only to a point.

Your posts on CS did come across as a little old school, but now that we are here, we can all be a little more clear, and hopefully we can all try to understand one another.

I will agree with Maggie as well that the situation Jester was in wasn't about hanging out with his usual gal pals....these were strangers. Strange married women. To me, that would piss me off if my boyfriend started hanging out with a group of girls at a bar.

I openly admit, I stay away from guys who have a lot of gal pals. Call it insecurity, call it controlling, whatever you like....I feel there is something wrong with guys who cannot make friends with at least one or two other guys or always want to be around women if they aren't gay. I'm sorry for how blunt or rude that came across, but it's how I feel. And this part I will admit is insecurity, but if it's a situation where all the gal pals are skinnier than you or pretty, it can be a fright to think about and trust can be hard if you have self esteem issues (which I have always had). All but one of my bf's gal pals (which thankfully aren't that many or they are dating his friends) are little cutsie skinny minnies....I feel like a whale compared to them, and sometimes I do wonder why he's even dating a girl that's shaped like me or looks like me when he is friends with all of these Mary Kate and Ashley types.

Unescorted ladies, that remark was very old school and I can see why it was misinterpreted. Personally, I'd be all for an old school rule about that if it weeded out all the lecherous creepy men who bug single girls out in public or small groups of girlfriends at the bar (like my one friend and I who ALWAYS get bothered when we go out together without our men). But in general, it's too old fashioned and not ideal because then how would anyone meet anyone if we had to avoid single ladies?

[Hobbs]

Like I said, I don't pick up women in bars b/c I'd never want to date bar-people. The rest of your statement is spot-on. I'm just mad that this whole thing escalated like it did. In the end, that thread turned into Hobbs-bashing and the bash-ee got banned. C'est la vie...

[Plaidman]

Like I said, I don't pick up women in bars b/c I'd never want to date bar-people. The rest of your statement is spot-on. I'm just mad that this whole thing escalated like it did. In the end, that thread turned into Hobbs-bashing and the bash-ee got banned. C'est la vie...

Not to nitpick, but not all people go to bars to drink. Several go for the live music. Others go to be the designated driver for their drunk friends. I've been to plenty of bars to play pool, listen to music, enter foosball tourments, and never had anything more then cherry cokes. (Roy Rogers, Coke with gerndine..). I'm pretty sure that even in my infinite unusualness, am not the only that does that.

[Hobbs]

Not to nitpick, but not all people go to bars to drink. Several go for the live music. Others go to be the designated driver for their drunk friends. I've been to plenty of bars to play pool, listen to music, enter foosball tourments, and never had anything more then cherry cokes. (Roy Rogers, Coke with gerndine..). I'm pretty sure that even in my infinite unusualness, am not the only that does that.

No you're not. I still don't plan or desire to meet people at bars. I go there to get my $50 spending money, that's it.

[Lace Neil Singer]

All right, lemme re-phrase, since people are STILL not getting it.

I think that married people can have friendly relationships with single people. HAPPY?!

Did you even read Maggie's post? THAT is what I was talking about.

I did, and I still don't agree with the point. Did you read the second part of MY post? I can hang out with strangers at my local if I like; you know, that's how you make friends.

[Hobbs]

I did, and I still don't agree with the point. Did you read the second part of MY post? I can hang out with strangers at my local if I like; you know, that's how you make friends.

And that's entirely your free choice. WE weren't talking about what is/is not a woman's freedom.

PS: I don't make friends with bar-people.

[BlaqueKatt]

PS: I don't make friends with bar-people.

that's rather close minded-I go out to the bar to socialize with adults-as talking to cashiers=hitting on them=creepy, don't like my co-workers much, and for the record I usually have A(as in singular) beer, or A drink, then drink soda the rest of the night-but since I hang out in a bar to socialize-you've already decided without knowing anything about me I'm not worthy of your friendship-that's pretty judgmental....I wouldn't judge anyone by where they socialize, Remember-"you can't judge a book by it's cover"-you could be missing out on some awesome friendships due to prejudice.

my group that I hang out with* goes on epic bike rides(40 mile day trip this weekend), camping, bowling, canoeing, swimming, kayaking, we go to the pistol range-none of these activities include alcohol-and guess what? We usually have a total blast-sober. One reason we go to the bar is several of my friends are vegetarian/vegan, and one bar here has the best vegan/vegetarian menu-better than some restaurants. We don't get drunk, as we all have jobs or school-but we do enjoy having a drink or two in a group.


*you've already dismissed us as "bar people that can't have a good time without alcohol" without even knowing any of us.

[Plaidman]

*you've already dismissed us as "bar people that can't have a good time without alcohol" without even knowing any of us.

Like me Hobbs. I go to bars for Bar Food alot too. Bar food is the best food in the freaking world. You get, twenty pounds of fatty delicious freshly made food for like, 3 bucks.

And the food is always good. I've yet to go a bar that didn't have good food.

[Hobbs]

Let me re-iterate. I only step foot into a bar if it's to work. I don't particularly like the atmosphere of a bar. A bar, for the most part, is for drunk people, and I don't like the company of drunk people. I've never heard of bars that sell food like that, still doesn't sound like somewhere I wanna hang out. I don't like the loud music or the clouds of smoke either. So sorry, but once I'm paid, I don't wanna be there and I leave.

[Plaidman]

Portland Smoke free, so no-one can smoke in bars here. Even then, I would brave the wave of smoke for so delicious delicious bar food. Hamburgers the size of my head for 5 bucks, with gallons of cheese, fresh lettace, tomatos, peppered bacon, onions, secret bar made bbq sauce...

Or the large plates of bbq ribs...

One of my faves has tons of italian food, like pizza, lasanga, spaggitti, fettchine..

Oh so good.. Droool.

And yeah, since its Portland, there are about two dozen bars that have vegen food only, and another dozen where you can bring in your pet dog to drink with your best furry friend.

[Hobbs]

I hate dogs and hippy-food.

No thanks.

Just believe me when I say I won't have fun in a bar.

[Plaidman]

oO Didn't realize Ribs were a /hippy/ food. But ok.

Its fine you don't like the above. All we're saying, don't judge books by cover. Your basically stating you don't want to be friends with Bar People. Alot of people go to bars for other reasons then to get drunk. Its a label. Labels are bad. It would be like me saying I won't be friends with murderers, so I can't be friends with you, since your in the air force and one day you'll have to fight. Which include killing people. You can say you don't go to bars. But don't say you refuse to be freinds/date people that go to a bar. That person might go to bar because their favorite food is there. Or they have a friend/loved one that works there. Their favorite band is there. Dozens of reasons.