Messing with Married Women

[Hobbs]

Killing people in war is NOT murder. Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of another person. It's perfectly legal for me to kill. Don't be obtuse.

Vegan food is hippy food.

Fine, if you go to bars, I may not mind; but bar-hoppers are right out. I can't stand people who think they can only have fun when they're drunk. And newsflash, a bar is mostly for people to GET DRUNK. I cannot stand drunk people.

[Plaidman]

I could get in that tanget again that some military targets still have people in there that are not there by choice. But hey, sucks to be them. If all military people are perfectly fine with spreading bombs on areas because they might be making weapons, or being forced to shoot child soldiers (of which there are tons of, who had no choice), then yeah. Fine. its legal. In anycase, the argument still stands. I won't be friends with those who take a life. That would still be all military people.

While the Bar main function is to serve drinks, not all people go there to get drunk. There are some who go for A drink, being one. Or to hang with friends. Or for food. Or again, another major, the live music. Alot of a great bands play at bars. Like the Cherry Popping Daddies. (Well, that's an obscure one, but a band I liked enough to go to the bar they played at once I hit 21). Great Swing music, great food. Lots of people there to have fun, (which doesn't mean to get drunk).

Do I mean that all people don't go to bars to have fun? No. Alot still do go to bars to get drunk because of a thousand reasons. But just an equal amount go to have fun, may it be table tennis, pool, foosball, darts, cards etc games, the music, to hang with friends and be a responible driver. (However, since you don't hang out with anyone that drinks, you never have to do that) and another thousand reasons. A bar is just a club. Like the treehouses and or clubhouses. People go there to hang out. Have fun. A place where many people go to chat and relax. Not to many other places can you go that does that many activies in one area. Sure, you can meet people at say, a movie theatre, but oh, no talking to them. You can meet people at a restraunt, but its rather wierd to go to a person while eating to try to start a converstation. You can try it a beach, but that takes out a good chunk of the middle countries.

I am in the same boat. I hate people that drink everyday on every hour. Something I dealt with everyday at work. But I do not rule out all bars as a potential area to make friends.

[AdminAssistant]

I'm not a huge bar hopper, but that's because I don't want to go to bars that my students might frequent. I think it's important to keep some degree of separation (hard enough when I'm barely older and sometimes younger than my students). And, besides, it's just awkward to be out with the girls, sipping on a Cuba Libre and see one of my students, "Hey, Teach!" geezzzzz. But there are bars/clubs/restaurants that cater specifically to the non-undergraduate crowd and we just go to those. Hang out, talk, maybe do karaoke (at one specific place), and just....relax. And yes, in my case, this almost always involves a couple of alcoholic drinks. It's legal, I like it, and I'm responsible.

You can't stand drunks, and I can't stand judgmental prudes. You stay out of the bars, and I'll stay out of Sunday School.

And while I disagree with the vegan mindset ("Vegetarianism is a first-world luxury" quoth Anthony Bourdain), calling it "hippie food" is just....essentialist. From what I've seen, Portland has some of the best food in America (along with a booming arts scene).

[Plaidman]

From what I've seen, Portland has some of the best food in America (along with a booming arts scene).

Yes... Yes we do. How often does a town have freaking food carts that get rave reviews in major papers/magazines? We do. How often do towns have every type of food in the world, all within walking difference? We do. I mean we have freaking every kind of restraunts. Fancy Ones. Goofy Ones. Brand Ones. Tons upon tons of long lived family owned ones. Its one of the few places that could easily support a restraunt that only serves tuna sandwhichs, and still make enough business to stay there for years.

[lupo pazzesco]

Yes... Yes we do. How often does a town have freaking food carts that get rave reviews in major papers/magazines? We do. How often do towns have every type of food in the world, all within walking difference? We do. I mean we have freaking every kind of restraunts. Fancy Ones. Goofy Ones. Brand Ones. Tons upon tons of long lived family owned ones. Its one of the few places that could easily support a restraunt that only serves tuna sandwhichs, and still make enough business to stay there for years.

I'm a foodie at heart.

I wanna visit Portland now.

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[Plaidman]

I'm a foodie at heart.

I wanna visit Portland now.

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Come down! I'll show you around to my fave restraunts. I'll uh, rob a bank to pay for it all .

[lupo pazzesco]

Come down! I'll show you around to my fave restraunts. I'll uh, rob a bank to pay for it all .

Silly, silly Plaid! You're not supposed to ANNOUNCE it before you do it. Makes plausible deniability less plausible. The fewer witnesses, the better.

Though I really would one day love to visit more than just the southern-ish US states. Maybe see this "snow" people talk so much about.

And considering I'm in TX, the better phrase would be "come up!", however, my brain is telling me there's something inherently wrong with blurting that out, which means I should probably go to bed. Yay opening shifts which have me getting up at 4 am. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet...

We should probably stop threadjacking.

Sorry Hobbs!! (And everyone else!!)

[Hobbs]

Silly, silly Plaid! You're not supposed to ANNOUNCE it before you do it. Makes plausible deniability less plausible. The fewer witnesses, the better.

Though I really would one day love to visit more than just the southern-ish US states. Maybe see this "snow" people talk so much about.

And considering I'm in TX, the better phrase would be "come up!", however, my brain is telling me there's something inherently wrong with blurting that out, which means I should probably go to bed. Yay opening shifts which have me getting up at 4 am. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet...

We should probably stop threadjacking.

Sorry Hobbs!! (And everyone else!!)

Naw, it's all right. Thread-jack all you want. Better than being called a judgmental prude for not liking bars.

[Plaidman]

Naw, it's all right. Thread-jack all you want. Better than being called a judgmental prude for not liking bars.

I never called you that. I find you judgmental prude for automatically including all people in bars as people you would never be friends with, for the simple fact they go to a bar.

[AdminAssistant]

I never called you that. I find you judgmental prude for automatically including all people in bars as people you would never be friends with, for the simple fact they go to a bar.

As do I. I'm not a bad person because I drink. I'm not a bad person because I drink in public, in an establishment designed for that purpose. You (Hobbs, not Plaid) are passing judgment on people based on one aspect of them.

[Hobbs]

As do I. I'm not a bad person because I drink. I'm not a bad person because I drink in public, in an establishment designed for that purpose. You (Hobbs, not Plaid) are passing judgment on people based on one aspect of them.

I just said that I don't go to bars to meet people or to have fun. To me, bars are not fun. Thus, I won't meet people at bars because I won't be in them.

[Plaidman]

I just said that I don't go to bars to meet people or to have fun. To me, bars are not fun. Thus, I won't meet people at bars because I won't be in them.

...Really?

Like I said, I don't pick up women in bars b/c I'd never want to date bar-people. The rest of your statement is spot-on. I'm just mad that this whole thing escalated like it did. In the end, that thread turned into Hobbs-bashing and the bash-ee got banned. C'est la vie...

No you're not. I still don't plan or desire to meet people at bars. I go there to get my $50 spending money, that's it.

And that's entirely your free choice. WE weren't talking about what is/is not a woman's freedom.

PS: I don't make friends with bar-people.

I just said that I don't go to bars to meet people or to have fun. To me, bars are not fun. Thus, I won't meet people at bars because I won't be in them.

[AdminAssistant]

I just said that I don't go to bars to meet people or to have fun. To me, bars are not fun. Thus, I won't meet people at bars because I won't be in them.

That's all you said?

Like I said, I don't pick up women in bars b/c I'd never want to date bar-people.

PS: I don't make friends with bar-people.

Bar-people?

A bar, for the most part, is for drunk people, and I don't like the company of drunk people. I've never heard of bars that sell food like that, still doesn't sound like somewhere I wanna hang out. I don't like the loud music or the clouds of smoke either.

I'm actually with you on the loud music, hate that, so I don't go to bars with live bands or loud music playing. Very few bars exist anymore where you can smoke.

Fine, if you go to bars, I may not mind; but bar-hoppers are right out. I can't stand people who think they can only have fun when they're drunk. And newsflash, a bar is mostly for people to GET DRUNK. I cannot stand drunk people.

Bars are places where a person can drink, but not necessarily get drunk. Do people get drunk in bars? Yes. As long as they aren't causing trouble or driving home at the end of the night, who cares? By saying you wouldn't want to be friends with bar-people, you are passing judgment on people who go to bars. You're saying that you won't associate with a certain kind. Whether or not they drink, get rowdy, or flirt with the cute bartender.

ETA: Plaid and I posted at the same time, apologies.

[Hobbs]

All right, I'm explaining myself then. Apologies for stating it wrong, OK?!

[crazylegs]

In Jester's situation, he was basically hooking up with these girls. He had never met them before that night, didn't know anything about them, and then proceeded to spend 6+ hours with them, drinking and flirting, without their husband's around.

Should it matter that their husbands weren't around?

Of course it doesn't.

As some of you who've read the some other posts here my GF and I are about 4000 miles apart. I know she's getting drunk with men she hasn't met before her trip, and these men I've never met. I also know I'm likely never to meet these men.

What I do know is that I trust her implicitly and I would never dream of telling her how to live her life. I know that she would never do anything to hurt me nor to break my trust - so why would it be an issue (percieved or otherwise) that she's socialising?