Medical MJ in a smoking hotel room

[ta2ooed1]

Hi all,

Tithera came up with what I thought was a great question in this thread, http://www.customerssuck.com/board/s...ad.php?t=63873

Quoth Tithera
Wow, what an idiot. But, I'm wondering, what would happen if you had someone come in with a medical card for marijuana and presented it to you to prove they could legally smoke it and was in a designated smoking room, would you still keep the deposit? Just wondering how that situation would pan out.

So drag out the soap box and let's here 'em

[BlaqueKatt]

medical marijuana is not legal, remember the feds have busted the dispensaries for it-federal law trumps state law.

[joe hx]

medical marijuana is not legal, remember the feds have busted the dispensaries for it-federal law trumps state law.

Exactly. There have been cases (that I'm too lazy to look for) where someone was growing medical marijuana under license from the state and have been busted by the feds.

[HYHYBT]

The question, then, is how many states will "legalize" it before the feds do?

[Boozy]

Exactly. There have been cases (that I'm too lazy to look for) where someone was growing medical marijuana under license from the state and have been busted by the feds.

What the hell is going on down there?

The right hand knows what the left is doing. But instead of coming to some kind of agreement through the legislative process or otherwise, the federal government allows the states to decriminalize marijuana, only to then send federal agents to burst in on pot growers?

This is one expensive and pointless drug policy.

Do Americans enjoy punching themselves repeatedly in the face?

[Kimmik]

See this for me is a two edge sword. Personally I could not stay in a room that smelled of pot. *ok no laughing* It is a plant and one that I am allergic to. Which is why I can understand why people who don't smoke cigarettes have a problem with the smoke. It is still a crime to possess drugs, the DEA says which are legal and illegal. And as much as I hate to say it Fed trumps state every time.

The Feds just need to smack the states that decriminalize it... or the Feds need to say ok pot does have its uses.. and regulate it... tax it and profit.

[HYHYBT]

Do Americans enjoy punching themselves repeatedly in the face?

No, but some of us like punching *others* in the face, and marijuana is one of those things that's gotten much more tolerated than it used to be, but only to the point where most people want it legal in a few places.

At least with the marriage laws, the feds won't *arrest* you for having one they don't approve of.

[Plaidman]

What the hell is going on down there?

The right hand knows what the left is doing. But instead of coming to some kind of agreement through the legislative process or otherwise, the federal government allows the states to decriminalize marijuana, only to then send federal agents to burst in on pot growers?

This is one expensive and pointless drug policy.

Do Americans enjoy punching themselves repeatedly in the face?

Not that clear and black. The feds have burned down people who were on medical marijuana, this is true. But you know why? Because they were growing far far more then legally allowed. Your allowed to have a set limit of plants as /backup/. But the bulk of people who get on that card (some that don't even need it mind you) don't read the fine print and belive they are allowed to have fields upon fields of the stuff.
Not to mention, they also give it away to friends, or let /friends/ discover it, or even sale it, all illegal actions.

Medicial Marijuana is a fine line, and many people break it, when means feds come in.


I do remember where a guy was suing his former tenet for smoking weed in his apartmant. The tenet was countersuing because the man stole his drugs and assulted him. It was all true. The man fully admited he saw the pot on the table, grabbed it, tried to storm out, punched the owner of the weed. He was shouting it was bullshit that he was doing a good deed.
Promblem was, the man had a valid legal card for that, and was not over his limit. He smoked the weed for his neck pain problems he suffers. He also fully admits he using the disability to pay for his surfing habit.

Yep. Man that has such intenst pain in his neck that he requires painkillers and weed to relax him, surfs.

I heard he lost his card after that, but he still won the countersuit against his former landlord for thief, assualt, harrassment, unfair iviction etc etc.

[Racket_Man]

one must also remember that the last adminstration (Bush II) started the whole crackdown on medical MJ. they did the same with porn. It seem the current administration has "other" more pressing problems to deal with so it is not that big of an issue.

[smileyeagle1021]

Coming from the hotel industry, I'd still say bust the guy for violating the smoking policy. Smoking is a perfectly legal activity, yet we still restrict it because smoke (be it the legal tobacco smoke or the still illegal in most areas marijuana) causes damage to the rooms. Often times smoking will cause burns and it ALWAYS leaves an unpleasant smell. If someone has a medical need for marijuana they can go to the smoking area like the rest of the people consuming their legal smoking product.

[bunnyboy]

Funny little thing, up until Bush 1 there WAS a Federal Medical MJ program (in fact a couple of the people on it are still living) as explained in Penn and Teller's show Bullshit.

[Skunkle]

I say make MJ legal and tax it. As for hotel rooms, if you can smoke cigarettes in them, you should be able to smoke anything legal in them. If you have a card giving you the right, you should be able to.

Yes, the smell gets into everything. So does cigarette smoke. Yes, there are people who are highly allergic. Same with cigarette smoke. Yes, it can cause burns, for which the renter should be charged. Same with cigarettes. Perhaps those who present the card should be placed in certain specific rooms, so that not every smoking room gets that smell, but many MJ users that I know are now using electric vaporizers instead of pipes, bongs and joints, making for less thick smoke. And the few MJ users I know who do use it for medical purposes and do smoke in hotel rooms blow it out the window and clean up. They want to be seen as good renters, and don't want to make a bad name for themselves.

The few people I know who claim to smoke it for medical purposes all do have chronic pain of various sorts. One took a bullet to the leg a few years ago. Another has fibro. Those two, in particular, don't hotbox a room (block up the cracks and fill with smoke). They put two puffs worth of potent stuff into a tiny pipe, each take a puff, and they're good for hours.

[infinitemonkies]

I was in that thread, and I followed up on it with my boss; he'd told me he had the same thought a couple years ago and looked into it.

(Bear in mind, this is in Canada, where at the moment, medical marijuana is legal, and possession without a valid permit is illegal (though not taken very seriously))

If they have a legal permit, they can smoke it in a smoking room.


Here's where it gets interesting: Suppose A) you don't have smoking rooms (very few hotels do, only 1 that I know of in this city), B) you have a guest WITH a valid permit, but due to medically related mobility problems is not able to leave the room to smoke said prescribed weed? If you kick them out, wouldn't that be discriminating against a handicap?

A: No. Which I admit surprised me. Apparently the ruling here in Canada is that if the room is non-smoking, it trumps the patients medical needs as the secondhand smoke can be considered a hazard to the health of the cleaning staff.More importantly, rooms that are set up for smoking must, by regulation, be better sealed and insulated to prevent smoke from contaminating the hallways and other areas of the hotels. The patient must find alternate accommodation that can support their requirements.



Also, the sticky part in the US issue is that if marijuana is a criminal matter, its federal jurisdiction, but if it's a medical matter, it's the state's jurisdiction. Oregon, for example, says (or said, maybe I'm out of date) within their state marijuana can be legally prescribed, therefore with a prescription it's a medical issue and the feds have no jurisdiction. The feds however, can investigate if they think there is any illegal involvement, like sharing or selling your dosage, growing more than your permit allows, etc. They can, and do, and in some cases have been wrong about criminal activity.