Sexual Preference & Promiscuitity

[Canarr]

Oh, I did check out the link. Also the one about sexual harassment in the office, with that Charlize Theron movie as a "study". Very informative.

Still, even though the article in the link refers to slut shaming when applied to women, there's nothing in there suggesting it couldn't be equally used against gays. Hell, the very first answer to your OP mentions "gay sluts". So, not too far out there.

Besides, if I interpret FA's intention correctly, his "slut shaming" link was primarily used in answer to your derogatory "whoring out" comment. Of course, I may be wrong there.

[Greenday]

Well, anytime someone has sex with anyone they can, it is whoring yourself out.

[Andara Bledin]

Well, anytime someone has sex with anyone they can, it is whoring yourself out.

No it's not. Whoring involves a transaction of some sort. If a person made someone buy they something before sleeping with them, then they'd be whoring themselves out.

Slutting it up is something entirely different, and your using the terms interchangeably is precisely what FArchivist's link was about.

^-.-^

[Greenday]

So whoring = professional while slutting it up = amateur? As my band director back in high school always said, you aren't a professional until you get paid for what you do!

[FArchivist]

You realize that the term "whore" doesn't strictly pertain to females only, right?

I'd disagree with that. In order to apply the term to males, it is usually considered proper to preface it, creating "man-whore" and denoting "a man who acts like a slutty woman". The word "whore" itself has a distinct origin and etymology wherein it clearly became a derogatory term used in the debasement of the female gender. It's connotation is pretty clear.

Well, anytime someone has sex with anyone they can, it is whoring yourself out.

Question: Why is having sex as you so choose a bad thing?

And don't try to deny that someone "whoring out" or being a "whore" is not a bad thing. It's a moral judgment entirely. You're saying they're BAD for having sex with whom they choose. That they're EVIL.

So why do you believe that? Why do you make a moral judgment based on sexual preference and proclivity?

Am I a "man-whore" because I had sexual relations with over 53 different partners previous to marriage? Does that make me "bad" somehow?

[Plaidman]

Depends on how you treated the partners.

Did you care about them at all?

Did you know their names?

Did you just fuck them and leave?

Did you feel regret?

There are a billion factors in it before you could be called bad.

[Eisa]

Honestly if you both were happy and satisfied and consenting...

Then I don't give a fuck anything else. Why is that "bad?"

[Greenday]

Question: Why is having sex as you so choose a bad thing?

And don't try to deny that someone "whoring out" or being a "whore" is not a bad thing. It's a moral judgment entirely. You're saying they're BAD for having sex with whom they choose. That they're EVIL.

So why do you believe that? Why do you make a moral judgment based on sexual preference and proclivity?

Am I a "man-whore" because I had sexual relations with over 53 different partners previous to marriage? Does that make me "bad" somehow?

Having sex is not bad. I love sex. Sex is awesome. But having sex with tons of different partners is just not a good idea. STDs is a real problem and having sex with a lot of people greatly increases the spread of them. What about pregnancy? If a guy manages to knock up multiple women, he's in some deep shit. If a woman has multiple partners in a short time period, figuring out who the father is could be one hell of a task.

And I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just that it's a stupid thing. It's irresponsible.

I make no judgement based on sexual orientation. I'm friends with people of various types of orientation: gay, straight, bi, anything that walks.

If having sex with 53 people before you got married is what you wanted, so be it. That's your choice and you get to live with the consequences. It has no effect on me so what you do is your choice and I won't get in the way. It's your choice whether I agree with it or not.

Depends on how you treated the partners.

Did you care about them at all?

Did you know their names?

Did you just fuck them and leave?

Did you feel regret?

There are a billion factors in it before you could be called bad.

None of those matter. Unless he was hooking up with people he knew that they cared about him and did it anyway knowing it would hurt them, there's nothing wrong with it.

As long as everyone on the same page, it's all good.

[Plaidman]

Wow. Two people disagree. I guess I'm waaaaaaay old fashion in thinking that you should at least know a person's freaking name before you have sex. Or that you should feel something for the person. Or not to dump them immedity after sleeping with them. All those are just wrong in my opinion.

No wonder I can't get dates. I don't do any of the above while others do.

[the_std]

Wow. Two people disagree. I guess I'm waaaaaaay old fashion in thinking that you should at least know a person's freaking name before you have sex. Or that you should feel something for the person. Or not to dump them immedity after sleeping with them. All those are just wrong in my opinion.

No wonder I can't get dates. I don't do any of the above while others do.

The self-pity does not become you, Plaid. Yes, two people disagree. Do you know why? We are on a debate site, and they are going to offer their opinions, just like you offered yours. You are entitled to that opinion, for sure. You're definitely allowed to think that sex is special, and that is completely valid, to you. But when it comes to standards such as these, you cannot realistically expect other people to conform to them. As long as they're not intentionally hurting anyone, the only standards anyone should abide by is their own.

So, for you, knowing someone's name and having an emotional relationship are key points in a sexual encounter. That is great for you, and you should definitely follow what you believe in. But if two people consent to an emotionless physical release with zero commitment afterward and never see or speak to each other again, that is their decision and there is nothing wrong with it for them.

[Eisa]

^Yeah, exactly. I can count the number of sex partners I've had on one hand. One finger, actually.

But I still don't see why someone should be "bad" or "shamed" just because they like sex and they like having it with lots of different people. I can't judge someone for having sex if they're responsible about it.

So I do think people should use protection and get tested for STDs regularly, of course. But just having sex with lots of people? Why is that the shame and blame game?

[Plaidman]

Not looking for pity. Just curious as to how it works. What, you just grab random person and go Ok we're fucking tonight? Just don't get how it works. At all. If any of you can explain it to me?

[Greenday]

Not looking for pity. Just curious as to how it works. What, you just grab random person and go Ok we're fucking tonight? Just don't get how it works. At all. If any of you can explain it to me?

Well, we see having sex and making love as two different things. At least I do. Making love brings you closer to each other emotionally. Having sex...gets you off.

But yea, it can basically work like that. Meet someone at the bar, chat them up, then kinda just make it happen. Or the fwb thing. It's gotta start out where you are just friendly. Once you are good friends, it's kinda too tough to pull off. Eventually you bring up the topic of sex and it either happens or it doesn't.

[Plaidman]

With friends you know their name and feel something for them, even if it's friendly. Chatting with someone at a bar you typicallly learn their name within a few minutes, even it is going to be a quick fuck and leaving.

The others have gotten laid with people who's name they didn't even know multiple times. I'm curious as to how they did that.

[AdminAssistant]

I'm curious as to how they did that.

Alcohol. Lots and lots of alcohol.

(Not that I've done that. I admit to not remembering some names of people I hooked up with during undergrad, but that was...6 years ago?)