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  • WHAM Scholarship

    This will most definitely spark some debate, or at least I would hope so. However, I'm also wondering if there's anyone who knows how this all ultimately turned out?

    The Backstory
    My Take

    Recently (this past year or so) the University of Rhode Island Republican Club sponsored a "White, Heterosexual American Male" scholarship. This scholarship was for the amount of $100, IIRC, and required all applicants to fill out a form identifying themselves as white, heterosexual American males (WHAMs) and to complete and submit an essay about how being a WHAM had affected their lives.

    Most, if not all, of the essays received were satirical (as was the scholarship itself), but the Student Government Association of URI took great offense to the scholarship, obviously, calling it "racist" and "homophobic", as well as "intolerant". The URI SGA demanded that the URI Republicans cancel the scholarship and publicly apologize in writing for their sponsorship of the scholarship, and threatened to disband the Republican Club if the demands were not met.

    URI Republicans were contacted by UMass Republican Club officials (who had been planning a similar scholarship for some time) and put in touch with FIRE, who presumably could help with their battle against the SGA. Under U.S. law, it is illegal for any entity to obtain a statement from any other entity while said second entity is under duress, as was the case here.

    I believe the SGA ruling to disband the Republican Club was overturned (as it should have been), and the scholarship was never actually awarded (though it could legally have been, in theory). That, however, is not my point. My question to you all is, was the Republican Club (or would any organization be) wrong in creating such an exclusive scholarship, or was the point they intended to make a valid one? And, what do you think the point was that they were trying to make?







    As for me, I supported the Republicans in their scholarship (and how rarely do I support most Republicans these days?). I would've thought it was in poor taste to see it actually awarded, but discovered later that the scholarship was created purely to spark a political and racial debate, and not to benefit white, heterosexual American males to the exclusion of all others.

    The point they seem to have made is that every race, gender, national heritage and sexuality has the right to organize and to exclude all others, with the exception of WHAMs. At least in America, that is. There are thousands if not millions of scholarships that are open only to black, Asian, Jewish, disabled, female, or many other demographics, but none that exclude all but WHAMs. As a WHAM myself, I find this perplexing.

    When white, heterosexual American women (or other women, but I'm keeping the WHA- part to point out the single difference) gather to support their own cause, it's called a "women's rights" group. When it's a heterosexual gathering of any other nationality, religion or heritage, it becomes the "Asian Students' Association" or the "Hindu Students' Organization", and any gathering of homosexual parties (male and/or female) is a "gay pride" rally, but when a group of white, heterosexual American males groups up, they immediately become "racists", "white supremacists", "neo-Nazis", or any of a thousand other derogatory and generally negative descriptors.

    I know I'm not alone in seeing the double standard here. I'm not railing against affirmative action (though I think that's misused at least as often as it's used properly), I'm speaking solely about a group identity. WHAMs are the only demographic that is forbidden, either by popular opinion or law (depending on where you live), from having a group identity. If you disagree, please do comment, but I have yet to find a group of exclusively WHAMs that isn't labeled by the popular majority as "bigoted" or any of the other terms which mean approximately the same.

    Oddly enough, nearly every religion can have its own group without fear of repercussions, provided they don't exclude any particular race or gender. That could be why the Republicans didn't go to the extra length of creating a "White Heterosexual Christian American Male" scholarship, but the inclusion of "white", "heterosexual", and "male" would have been enough to hang them regardless of whatever other qualifiers they put in.

    And to what extent could this scholarship be broadened while still suffering complaints of bigotry and exclusion? Would a "white male" scholarship be as loathed? What about just a "white" scholarship? Or a "male" scholarship? I think either would be pretty iffy, but particularly the "white" one. Why? Because then you're excluding more than just half of the possible entrants. "Perpetration of the glass ceiling" as in the case of a "male" scholarship seems less offensive to many than "perpetration of white supremacy".

    Come on, people. Opinions? Rebuttals? Agree? Disagree? *Chomps at the bit.*

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    That is pretty freaking awesome. WHAMs are getting screwed over by affirmative action because of it being improperly used all the time. I'm sick of all these scholarships that only apply to women or minorities. I never see any advertised only for WHAMs. And having a scholarship only for WHAMs is just as racist as only for blacks, women, etc. etc. My family doesn't make that much. We aren't wealthy by any means. I get no state aid since I go to school out of state. I get no federal aid cause the government is stupid and thinks my family has plenty of money. I see all these scholarships for women and jack s*** for men. So much for equality.
    Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Greenday View Post
      I see all these scholarships for women and jack s*** for men. So much for equality.
      Um, could you point me to some of those? Cuz I ain't seeing them around here. Does it make me sexist to accept the money of sexists?

      I think this contest illustrates a point I've been making for years: affirmative action is at the point where it fosters racism, and needs to enter a second stage. Whenever I hear someone calling a WHAM racist just for the crime of being a WHAM, I have to shake my head and laugh at their bigotry. How can they not see the log in their own eye while pointing out the speck in another's, to quote a certain wise man.

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      • #4
        My school has somewhere between a 4:1 girl to guy ratio and a 7:1 girl to guy ratio. There are a lot of scholarships open to women here.
        Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Greenday View Post
          My school has somewhere between a 4:1 girl to guy ratio and a 7:1 girl to guy ratio. There are a lot of scholarships open to women here.
          That's a pretty strong ratio. My school, and AFAIK my state, doesn't have sex-specific scholarships. Even if they did, I'd feel guilty accepting one. I have won a "celebration of womanhood" poetry scholarship contest, but I don't think that's the same thing.

          My school is 55% female, which I think is fairly close to the national average.

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          • #6
            Even in high school, when it was pretty close to 50:50, there were a lot of female scholarships. I'm all for handing out scholarships, especially when people who actually need them get them. But seriously, enough with the nuts and bolts.
            Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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            • #7
              I certainly agree with the point you are trying to raise here, no question of that.

              though the original idea of the scholarship was to attract (in a loose sense) people from minority - and usually by that also economcially disadvantaged - into the field. Since the US is predominantly (I think - go for the stats if you will though....) white, and higher education used to be the realm of males, and the majority of the population is heterosexual... then I can understand why they would put up such scholarships... to help those attain a degree where without it it is less likely they would....

              That being said (and I presume we're all pretty much on the same page with that, at least as far as the theory went...) having scholarships, to me, should be about helping someone who has the talent, but not the resources to do their education.. regardless of background. To specify by race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc etc who is able to receive it is a bit... hopefully...out-dated (but probably not)

              So - in theory, I don't see anything really 'wrong' with it... as long as it would be correctly applied - that is - to someone in need. (although...$100???? yeah - I know it was satire on the system, but still....they could have done it so it really did mean something to someone...)


              Damn... I just basically said what GD did .....
              ZOE: Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?

              SHEPHERD BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, Somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

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              • #8
                I always thought that it should be given to the ones that did deserve it. Not the ones that are certain Races or Genders.

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                • #9
                  The argument that white men are somehow getting screwed over by minorities and women actually makes me laugh out loud. Its a ridiculous assertion.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by powerboy View Post
                    I always thought that it should be given to the ones that did deserve it. Not the ones that are certain Races or Genders.
                    Oh..come on now.... deserving?????
                    ZOE: Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?

                    SHEPHERD BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, Somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                      The argument that white men are somehow getting screwed over by minorities and women actually makes me laugh out loud. Its a ridiculous assertion.
                      It's kinda become true. There are schools that make it easier to get in if you are a minority or a woman. The quota system makes it so if a white guy is extremely well qualified, he still might not get the job because he is a white guy and that would be unfair to minorities and women, even if none of them are better qualified than the white guy. Some jobs lower the standards for women so they don't have to perform as well to get a job over a male.

                      Everyone thinks because I'm white and a guy, I'm privileged. I don't see that happening to anyone else. Because I'm "privileged", I don't need help at all, even though my family doesn't have much cash. So I don't get any financial aid or scholarships, because I'm a white guy who obviously can easily afford it and even if I can't, I can easily get a job because I'm a white guy. See where I'm going? Everyone assumes my life is easy because I'm a white guy and it's total assbackward logic.
                      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                        Some jobs lower the standards for women so they don't have to perform as well to get a job over a male.
                        Several of the police and fire physical fitness tests do that. I looked at my age bracket on one of them (20-29) and for the different activities, they have different standards:

                        1.5 Mile run:
                        Male: 13:46
                        Female: 16:21 (for a male, this time is for a 50-59 y/o)

                        Bench Press (1 rep):
                        Male: 98% of body weight
                        Female: 58%

                        One Minute Situp
                        Male: 37
                        Female: 31

                        The only one where the male gets the "advantage" is the sit and reach (16" vs 18.8").

                        This is for the Carbondale, IL Police Department but is pretty standard throughout the area. Shouldn't they both be held to the same standard? That 300 pound drunk guy is going to weigh the same wether it is a male officer or a female officer trying to apprehend him. Why should women get an extra 2:35, do six less sit-ups, and only have to bench press under 2/3 of their body weight?

                        - Then, like I said in a different thread, there is a local police department (Springfield) worried that if they add the requirement of a Bachelor's Degree, it would hurt minority recruitment.

                        - Do you ever see in the classifieds "White males encouraged to apply"? Nope. D/F/M/V Encouraged to apply (not just for public safety, but for any job). D/F/M/V stands for Disabled, Females, Minorities, Veterans.

                        So, how are white males not being screwed over?

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                        • #13
                          Maybe because it's already assumed white males will apply? I mean, if you're trying to fill a quota, and you have too many white males, it doesn't help to encourage MORE white males.

                          The problem is the idea of quotas, and as I discussed in an earlier thread, if we had white scholarships, we'd be called racist, and here we are.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                            The argument that white men are somehow getting screwed over by minorities and women actually makes me laugh out loud. Its a ridiculous assertion.
                            I don't think they were trying to make that argument at all. Rather, they were pointing out the racism inherent in discriminating against or for any protected category.

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                            • #15
                              I think the creation of that scholarship is absolutely hysterical. I've been hoping someone would do something like that for quite some time.

                              Fuck everyone. They should have gone through and awarded it. It's no more racist than a "black" only scholarship. It's no more sexist than a "women only" scholarship. And it's no different than offering a scholarship for "gays only."

                              I don't mind stipulations being put on the scholarships, just so long as EVERY group gets to make their own requirements without others crying foul.

                              I believe that this discussion came up in that thread about the Springfield P.D. as a matter of fact...

                              hehe. WHAM! too funny... and I don't usually support the republicans either... but good for those guys for making a point.

                              And as for the requirements for women being different than men...that's BS. If you can't do what the job demands, do something else! I don't want someone coming to my rescue who is physically incapable of helping me!
                              "Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
                              "And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter

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