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  • #31
    I'm with a possible majority here... Mysty and Phoenix in particular...

    It's a cultural thing, and one that hopefully this bit of humanity will get over pretty soon....

    What does concern me is that women's nipples (of boob-bits) are right out, yet it's perfectly alright to show people getting bashed! I saw an MTV video some years back (?Turn the Page by...???) in which the girl's toplessness couldn't be shown (censored out) yet having her beaten up by the guy was ok...

    Now... what does that tell the kiddies of today????
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    • #32
      I assume you mean the sight of my breasts, then. I was offended by the suggestion that going topless makes my breasts public property. If this is not what you meant, then I apologize for the misinterpretation. As I have to explain to my kinderpals, we see with our eyes, touch with our hands, and never the twain shall meet (without my permission).

      EDIT: Sylt, it tells them that sex=shameful and violence=awesome. Yippee yi yay, another generation of messed up kiddies.

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      • #33
        I'll go topless! I don't care! When my old DM and his wife had their Mardi Gras party, I was the one who flashed everyone. I didn't care. And no, it wasn't 'cos I was very drunk neither.
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        • #34
          I dunno. I prefer to keep my boobs covered and share them only with the person I share a house with. I think he'd feel a little slighted if I started walking around showing them to everyone.

          I guess it's just my upbringing. I don't think women should walk around topless. If they changed the law and made it legal...well...whatever those women want to do. That's their business.

          I do agree that there is a disturbing standard in the US regarding sex and violence. A booby on TV should not be a big deal. I'd rather the country be in an uproar about the excessive violence.

          Of course, maybe if our culture was less "prude" to begin with, I wouldn't feel the way I do about seeing other people's boobs. *shrug*

          And sorry- I would be one to look. Like...WTF? is she topless???

          Eh. The more I think about it, I'd probably ignore it after it became commonplace...

          But then, I hate the sight of some guys without shirts...I don't wanna see those type of women shirtless, too...icky more brain bleach will be required daily....
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sylvia727 View Post
            I assume you mean the sight of my breasts, then. I was offended by the suggestion that going topless makes my breasts public property. If this is not what you meant, then I apologize for the misinterpretation.
            Oh, sorry about the misunderstanding. I totally didn't mean public property. I meant just the sight of your breasts. Your body is yours. No doubt about that.
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            • #36
              Well, that's fine, then. My breasts are beautiful, I don't mind sharing the view. But my main motivation is to de-emphasize the sight. I'm topless for practical reasons; it's hot, I'm working hard, I spilled something on my shirt, whatever. However, many people automatically associate "topless" with "sex". Just because I'm bare-breasted doesn't mean I'm a whore or that I have low self-esteem. Sometimes, nudity is just nudity, and my nipples shouldn't been considered differently than a man's.

              I currently have three roomies. Two of them have requested that the bikini area be covered in front of them, and they cover this area in front of us. Myself and the other gal either wear bras and panties or turn our backs in front of them, and go naked in front of each other. There's no sexual tension or embarrassment on anyone's part, even though two are bisexual and thus could reasonably be expected to fly into lustful frenzies.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                Yea, but you don't walk up to random guys and just feel their chests, do you? And since guys' chests visually does nothing for you, doesn't really matter if they have a shirt on since you won't be drooling.
                IDrinkARum made my point, but I'll say it anyway: people love all sorts of things.

                For the visually oriented, I've known people who go nuts over:

                Feet
                Ankles
                Legs
                Buttocks
                Hips
                The groin (obviously)
                Backs
                Bellies
                Chests/Breasts
                Shoulders
                Arms
                Hands
                The decolletage (the area below a woman's neck, above her breasts)
                Necks
                Mouths
                Ears
                Eyes
                Cheeks
                Jaws
                Hair


                Maybe we should all wear full burqa with veils.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Seshat View Post
                  Maybe we should all wear full burqa with veils.
                  How about fully naked for both groups?
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                  • #39
                    Yea, fuck it. Let's all go nekkid. Too funny.
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                    • #40
                      I hope y'all don't mind a healthy dose of cellulite then

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                      • #41
                        Back in the Victorian Era, the standard of feminine beauty was a slim wrist. Not much else showed, but a woman showing bare wrists would garner reactions much like a topless woman would today. To the extent that if a sleeve slipped a bit, a woman could be arrested for indecent exposure.

                        By those standards even showing a bare arm would destroy western civilization...hasn't happened yet.

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                        • #42
                          Let me just chim in here that you are right that the standards of what is shocking and siturbing nudity wise have been changing and probably will change. maybe hopefully someday people will chill out and not get so freaked out over a pair of mammaries. I personally dont have a problem with that, either getting freaked or getting over excited. It all depends on presentation and situation.

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                          • #43
                            The question remains: how can I, me personally, see more boobies? What can I do as a citizen? It's more than voting and speaking out at rallies, or joining the various civic groups that are out there. The question becomes doubly troubling, when one factors in that I do not want to see men's chests at all.
                            For me it's about going back to the start: is there a way to reverse course, and make it so that men cannot bare their chests, but women can?

                            Of course I'm going to defend a woman's right to go topless in public. That's a given. But it (any movement that we're talking about here) needs to go further.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by HowMayIHelpMe? View Post
                              The question remains: how can I, me personally, see more boobies?
                              The men with the most luck getting women to take their tops off for them generally don't refer to breasts as "boobies."

                              Just a tip.

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                              • #45
                                Girls Gone Wild. The entire thing is basically just girls flashing the camera for three seconds each.
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