Women going topless

[Lace Neil Singer]

Try any Motley Crue concert footage. XD

I will say that I certainly would not want to whip my top off. My breasts are for me, and for my boyf to see. No-one else. If you want to walk around topless, then move to a culture that doesn't sexualise breasts. I still remember boys from my school's brother school giggling on the bus at National Geographic; I somehow doubt that people's attitudes would be any different now. In any case, people should be covering up more, rather than less; there are some guys walking around topless showing off hairy backs, sweaty beer guts and moobs who definitely need to stop doing so. O.o And nope; that doesn't make me a prude, which a lot of "Get everyone naked!" people seem to think.

Yes, nudity is natural. But then, so is peeing, pooping, vomiting, masturbating and having sex. Do you want to see everyone doing all of those in public, too?

[Flyndaran]

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Yes, nudity is natural. But then, so is peeing, pooping, vomiting, masturbating and having sex. Do you want to see everyone doing all of those in public, too?

But nudity is not an action, and certainly not one that spews bodily fluids of a potentially disease carrying nature like your examples.
The only unsanitary part is sitting on communal seats without courtesy barriers. Most nudists that I've seen carry a towel for just such occastions.
That just leaves the visual image of humans.
The idea of finding average naked humans gross should be silly. The fact that western society, heavily influenced by shame-filling religions, does offends me.
I have far too severe of anxiety to leave the apartment with ease, let alone go nude anywhere. But that doesn't make me any less offended by laws based on nothing but religion based morality
Separation of church and state!

[Lace Neil Singer]

I have my opinion and you have yours. In any case, I see clothing as the equivilent of fur and feathers. If you want to go around nude, be my guest. But expect to freeze to death round my neck of the woods.

[BlaqueKatt]

I hope y'all don't mind a healthy dose of cellulite then

Or minor stretch marks-I have been preggers-though I do know some guys that really "got going" because I do have them-to each his/her own.....

[HowMayIHelpMe?]

The men with the most luck getting women to take their tops off for them generally don't refer to breasts as "boobies."
Just a tip.

I used "boobies" in the farcical sense. Meant to offset the otherwise false "rhetorical tone" of the post. Also, it's just a funny word. Although I just cannot stand it when a woman refers to her breasts as boobs.

[AFPheonix]

How about tittays? That has a ring to it.

[DrT]

Exposing breasts doesnt increase sexual arrassment. I'd tend towards the opposite, actually, since the aim of the harassment is to see them, well if they're out already no need to harass.
I'm not backing it up with stats so I won't go any further, but give it a though.

Just go to a beach in France. You won't see hordes of teens gathering around a well endowed lady sunbathing.
They'll look (oh my god of course I'll look !), but they won't gawk forever.

This does go deeper than just harassment. This is about freedom. Tis your body, you own it, you can do whatever your want with it. Or so it should be.
will the lady down the street be offended ? Maybe. Then again she'll be offended by you talking to her son while wearing a bikini. She has issues going far deeper than you imagine.
Will his son be offended ? yeah right. He'll go to bed happier tonight.
The daughter ? Jealous maybe, offended no. And you might even protect her from developing the same insecurities that handicap her poor mom.
The dad. He'll salute you ! ;p

Seriously though, it's not because it's allowed that people do it. But that don't mean you should forbid it. Forbidding means the government doesn't trust his citizen to use common sense. For speeding it's ok, because other people's lives are at risk. Getting nude however doesn't hurt anyone.

[rdp78]

I guess with nudity in general it means you are comfortable in your skin and don't mind other people seeing your flaws. I mean even if they are partial nude with just their top part not being covered they still are comfortable showing that part of the body off. Same thing for girls in tiny bikinis and guys in speedos but their private parts are hopefully covered. I mean even if they have the most disgusting and ugliest body in the world they are still proud to show it off even if people are running away from them or looking away.

Now, if my state does allow for women to go topless (I'm doubtful it doesn't) many people would be disappointed because pretty much all my bras are padded. My bra size is a 34B and for a long time I thought I was 36. Yep, I thought I had bigger boobs then I actually had. No, I won't go topless anyway because I'm not that comfortable with my body and I probably feel weird doing it.

[guywithashovel]

Some of you have said that no one gets offended if a man goes out in public without a shirt on. This isn't accurate. Let me explain why.

Back when I worked for the big box retail chain that everyone loves to hate, a man walked through our doors at around eleven o'clock one night. He was not wearing anything above his waistline. A woman who was shopping in our store approached one of our nighttime security guards and said, "Excuse me, but there is a man walking around the store with no shirt on. I have my two little daughters with me, and I didn't bring them in here to see a strip show. This is supposed to be a family store." Granted, this situation was probably an anomaly, but it goes to show that there really are some people who don't want to see a guy's naked chest.

As a guy, I hardly ever go around with a shirt on. If I'm swimming, I do. But I wouldn't even consider entering a store or walking down a public street without a shirt. I'm not overweight. However, I do have a mild case of "man boobs." It really isn't all that noticeable, but it is there, and I don't like to call attention to it my baring my chest. This "man boobs" case of mine is not due to chest fat, either. It is because I am one of a handful of men in the world who are affected with gynecomastia---a natural enlargement in men's chests. If you want to know more about it, just Google it. There's quite a bit of info about it on the Web. (Some guys can't help having "man boobs.")

[Boozy]

I'd be offended by a shirtless man in a retail establishment too, although I wouldn't call it a "strip show". It's low-class and disrespectful to walk around in public half-dressed. There are certain places where its totally fine - the beach, very casual stores located close to the beach, swimming pools, playing frisbee in the park.

But shopping at a big box store? This guy should have been stopped at the door and told to come back when he was prepared to behave in a civilized manner.

[guywithashovel]

I'd be offended by a shirtless man in a retail establishment too, although I wouldn't call it a "strip show". It's low-class and disrespectful to walk around in public half-dressed. There are certain places where its totally fine - the beach, very casual stores located close to the beach, swimming pools, playing frisbee in the park.

But shopping at a big box store? This guy should have been stopped at the door and told to come back when he was prepared to behave in a civilized manner.

The guard said that he would have liked to have stopped the man at the door and asked him to come back when he had a shirt on, but he (his words) couldn't because we didn't have a sign up that said customers have to have shirts on if they want to come inside. Evidently he (the guard) had been trying to get the store manager to put one up for a long time, but the SM didn't want to because he was afraid it would upset people. Apparently on another occasion the guard saw a woman coming inside with nothing on above her waist except bodypaint (this was during our county fair). I think he did convince her to leave, though.

But yeah, going into a store without a shirt on is not a very polite thing to do, regardless of whether you're male or female.

[PepperElf]

Guys' chests aren't sexual like women's. And I do think when a guy chest is as big as some women, they really should cover up too.

you remind me of the movie the Pacifier. Where the little girl points out Vin's chest to her friend and says that "he has boobs!"

Vin's character made a point of putting a shirt on... although technically being a guy he didn't have to but, the little girl had called attention to his chest and had compared it to woman's boobs... therefore putting his pecs in the category of being sexual.

so, yes.... the body part became a part considered sexual... so then it was covered.

I guess with nudity in general it means you are comfortable in your skin and don't mind other people seeing your flaws.

that comment made me think of something... not specifically about what you said though, but jsut in general the idea of "being comfortable"

in my opinion many people who are in favor of public toplessness or nudity quote the idea that it's about being "comfortable with your own skin" and that people who aren't have something wrong with them.

i disagree... if one person is comfortable with their own skin fine.... but that doesn't automatically mean everyone else is - or has to be - comfortable with it.


now in countries where it's considered the norm.... that's because they have a history of it.... expecting other countries to suddenly adopt these different values overnight is in my opinion, quite insane.

[Fashion Lad!]

I don't understand why it's a crime against humanity for a woman to go topless in public, I really don't. Even when women wear revealing tops, I'm not the guy that's going to stare at their clevage or anything like that. I don't see breasts as sexual, probably because there are shape differences (really) when it comes to the difference between my chest and a woman's chest. (Of course, I know there are things that a woman has in breasts that I don't have. But for practical conversation, I don't care.)

[Flyndaran]

All of these points seem to lose their point if we accept society rules to work for the vast majority of people.
No matter what our value judgements about men that ogle women are, the fact remains that large portion of men will ogle woment more if they were nude-ish.
Personally, I prefer massive loads of freedom to security, but I can see why others prefer the status quo with regards to this topic.

[Rubystars]

I'm 100% in support of women's rights to breast feed their babies in public. However I think just going around topless for the sake of it would not be classy.