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  • #16
    I found this interesting.
    Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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    • #17
      Aren't news stations supposed to do some form of fact checking before actually reporting it?
      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
        Aren't news stations supposed to do some form of fact checking before actually reporting it?
        Don't you know Greenday? While local station do check the stories out before they go live or to print, Major news networks don't let a tiny insignificant thing like facts and the truth get in the way of delivering a dramatic story that they can air for days or weeks on end.

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        • #19
          I've said it before in other threads--it's no longer about the news, but ratings...and whatever will get people to watch.

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          • #20
            I'm not going to give MSNBC the excuse of ignorance or incompetitence, I say it was done on purpose hoping their agenda/colusion wouldn't be exposed.
            Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Greenday View Post
              Aren't news stations supposed to do some form of fact checking before actually reporting it?
              Nope. Fox News fought to ensure that "news" programs had the right to broadcast known falsehoods under the guise that they are "enteratainment" programs.

              Personally, I want to go after any program with "news" in the title that isn't specifically entertainment (such as News Radio) for false advertising.

              As for the article linked a few posts back, I like how it tries to shift the focus from the possibility of racism in jury selection to the case itself. Which, aside from the races of hose involved, is completely irrelevant to the current question, despite it's inherent relation.

              Also, while the original story left out quite a lot (fairly typical, unfortunately), it's the defense's job to grasp at any straw available to them in the defense of their client. And, whether this straw proves to be valid or is merely a red herring, the outcome is important for everybody up and down the line.

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              Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                Also, while the original story left out quite a lot (fairly typical, unfortunately), it's the defense's job to grasp at any straw available to them in the defense of their client. And, whether this straw proves to be valid or is merely a red herring, the outcome is important for everybody up and down the line.
                Perhaps they were conceding an easy one so they could focus on jurors that actually had a shot. There was nothing the defense attorney could have said after all that, that could have changed the fact that he was going to be dismissed.
                Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                • #23
                  The confederate flag is still extremely popular down here in the south. I see it all over the place, a guy around the corner from me has it flying in front of his house right below Old Glory.

                  There's still a lot of people down here very passionate about the Confederacy. On a recent trip to TN I found a t-shirt in one of the stores with this on it:



                  I also saw another one with the Flag which read: HERITAGE...NOT HATE

                  As a Canadian I don't know much about Civil War History but since I'm living in the south now I guess it might do me good to learn a bit.

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                  • #24
                    The flag is popular in some areas and not in others. You don't see it flying often where I'm from, just the occasional t-shirt or truck decal. You really don't even hear too much about the Confederacy, although a lot of people are still distrustful of 'Yankees'.

                    Some of what Crazedclerk is talking about is good ol' fashioned racism, which knows no state or regional borders. Some of it, especially from older people, is resentment from the Reconstruction and the Civil Rights movement. Right or wrong, a lot of folks down there are very independently minded, and the fact that a lot of 'Yankees' and 'carpetbaggers' came down (twice) to tell them how to run things breeds a lot of resentment.

                    Crazedclerk, it probably would be helpful to learn a bit about the Civil War (and the Civil Rights Movement), in particular the history of whatever particular area you're in.

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                    • #25
                      Jesus, they are still sore about it? Don't hear anyone complaining about those darn Rebels.

                      Honestly, I'd like to hear that history lesson that'll change my mind. I have friends from Florida who still call it The War of Northern Aggression.
                      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                      • #26
                        It is not racism to distrust yankees and/or carpetbaggers regardless of race. I can only speak for myself but my setiment is common we don't like folks coming here and telling us how to run things. I/We don't like hearing "back home" followed by some condesending criticism. Our answer is if "back home" was so nice then why didn't you stay there, we certainly didn't ask you to come here??? We don't care how you did it back home. We also dislike being told we have no culture. Yes we do have culture, ours is just different. You're welcome to participate just don't demand that we change to accomidate you.

                        I'm not totally opposed to yankees coming here to live as most are really nice folks. Most want to fit in and take steps to do so afterall they came here for a reason.

                        Back on topic, I understand the attorney grasping at any straws available to save his client, I just dislike the painting of all southern folks as racists just because a Confederate Memorial has a Confederate flag flying over it. Just a few miles from me is a memorial to a NY regiment that fought in the Battle of Knoxville and it not only has the yankee flag flying over it but the NY state flag (gasp.) Maybe I should just march over there and haul them down after all they "offend" me and I'm sure I couldn't get a fair trail just because of those flags.
                        Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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                        • #27
                          I have friends from Florida who still call it The War of Northern Aggression.
                          I've only ever heard that one used in jest.

                          I think the "official" southern name (though not one you'd hear at all either) is "The War Between the States." I kinda like that one, though "Civil War" is shorter.
                          "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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                          • #28
                            If it is NOrhern Aggression, how come the South fired first?

                            And I don't mind the Confederate Flag as long as the folks of Georgia don't mind my Sherman T-shirt. After all, it is just heritage right?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mikoyan29 View Post
                              If it is NOrhern Aggression, how come the South fired first?

                              And I don't mind the Confederate Flag as long as the folks of Georgia don't mind my Sherman T-shirt. After all, it is just heritage right?
                              Does that mean wearing the Swastika is cool? It's not a hate thing, it's a heritage thing if you have ancestors from Germany, right?

                              And every time I've brought that argument up (South fired the first shots), I never really got a response.
                              Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mikoyan29 View Post

                                And I don't mind the Confederate Flag as long as the folks of Georgia don't mind my Sherman T-shirt. After all, it is just heritage right?
                                I totally want to see that.
                                Last edited by RecoveringKinkoid; 05-19-2011, 01:09 PM.

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