apparently to some people being raped is a sin

[Ginger Tea]

It occurred to me that perhaps the mother is ashamed that her daughter is not a fully functioning individual and might be angling for the grandchild in the hopes that she will have the opportunity to raise a normal child to make up for the daughter.

I was going to post something like this last night, but I was too tired to really see my keyboard.

"I will raise my grandchild as my own and raise him/her like the child I never had."

And I do hope that "being raped is a sin" was something miss comunicated along the way

[BlaqueKatt]

t perhaps the mother is ashamed that her daughter is not a fully functioning individual and might be angling for the grandchild in the hopes that she will have the opportunity to raise a normal child to make up for the daughter.

"I will raise my grandchild as my own and raise him/her like the child I never had."

I'm leaning more toward mother theresa line of thought "suffering is a gift from god" martyrism as according to the article it's her adopted daughter, one of 5 special needs children she's adopted. In other words she specifically adopted the girl because she wasn't "normal"

[Sarah Valentine]

I'm thinking the same thing as Andrea and Ginger, that this "woman" sees this as an oppertunity for the child she feels she should've had. This bitch has NO buisines being a parent.

[Nyoibo]

Not really. What the mother in the article is measuring is the the potential child's life vs. her daughter's vs. the guy who did it. Her point is that her daughter can run the risk and allow this child to have a life, if it implants, despite the fact the father is a douche.

Following this type of reasoning then you must be against all forms of birth control?

[blas87]

A line of thinking does not always mean that's what the person behind the computer believes.

Believe me, I am trying to find some way that this....stupid bitch for lack of a better word, could justify this. I am trying to NOT rage porn here. Doesn't mean I believe in what she's doing.

[Ginger Tea]

I had not read the article at the time of posting (nor have I yet), so I did not know that the child (I have no idea on here age, she could be 30 without reading the link) was adopted, so the Mother probably knew she had a dissability from the get go.

But if she wasn't adopted then I stand by my initial post.

[Kheldarson]

Following this type of reasoning then you must be against all forms of birth control?

Pretty much. That's not to say I'm against using hormones if you have a separate medical condition, but I don't support birth control simply so you can avoid responsibilities. Don't want to have kids? Don't have sex.

As for rape cases, I still lean more towards the same answer, but realize it's a different situation and far more emotionally traumatic in general.

[AdminAssistant]

Don't want to have kids? Don't have sex.

*blink* *blink*

I would really hate to live in your world.

[Andara Bledin]

I would really hate to live in your world.

I'm just glad that the prevailing sentiment in the majority of modern civilization is that birth control is a good thing.

Besides, using birth control is being responsible.

^-.-^

[Kheldarson]

You mean the world where my husband and I waited five years to get married before having sex for the first time?

The world where we pay attention to what my body's doing to figure out the least likely time for me to be able to get pregnant so we can enjoy ourselves, yet still understand that there may be consequences for our decision? And we are willing to take that responsibility, which is why we got married in the first place.

Part of my issue with birth control is that it's used a lot to remove personal responsibility. And that's stupid.

[the_std]

Part of my issue with birth control is that it's used a lot to remove personal responsibility. And that's stupid.

How about exercising personal responsibility with birth control? Knowing that I would A) make a terrible mother and B) getting pregnant would likely kill me, I choose to use birth control because I like sex, and my boyfriend likes sex, and neither of us would be happy in a relationship where we weren't having sex. Yet our relationship is perfect for us, and I fully plan on being with him for the rest of my life.

So my using birth control to prevent unwanted children and serious medical complications and allow me to continue to enjoy the most fulfilling part of my life is... Stupid? I can't say I understand that logic at all.

And we are willing to take that responsibility, which is why we got married in the first place.

Okay, You guys got married in the first place to be together under the understanding that there would be no birth control used and that any children resulting from your sexual activities would be embraced and accepted. Great. But why should other people have to follow your lifestyle choice? What is it about your choice that is so great that it should be applied to the rest of the world? A world currently facing massive overpopulation?

[AdminAssistant]

You mean the world where my husband and I waited five years to get married before having sex for the first time?

Yep. I prefer my world where I know that my Fiance and I are sexually compatible, where we can have that intimacy, and where, most importantly, we can fulfill our sexual desires without having a child that we can't afford. My only complaint is that I can no longer take hormonal birth control. The IUD is more reliable, but I hate having week-long super painful periods that I can't predict.

Considering the fact that less than 3% of people wait until marriage to have sex, and considering our planet's overpopulation, the strain on resources, our nation's debt...preventing the birth of children is actually a very responsible act.

I don't understand people who are pro-life but oppose birth control. The best way to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies is to improve access to birth control, because people are not going to stop having sex. I would say that's a Puritannical way of thinking, but I'm pretty sure even the Puritans were getting it on on a pretty regular basis.

ETA:

So my using birth control to prevent unwanted children and serious medical complications and allow me to continue to enjoy the most fulfilling part of my life is... Stupid? I can't say I understand that logic at all.

Oh, std, don't you know? It's obviously God's Plan (tm) for you to die in painful childbirth! Isn't that wonderful!

[Sleepwalker]

Not wearing a seatbelt and accepting head trauma and death in case of an accident is the only responsible thing to do. Ride in a car and be prepared to accept the consequences.

[Rebel]

Hopping into water could possibly lead to drowning.
To avoid drowning you must completely avoid water.
Sure, I could teach you about the dangers and how to be safe, but I think swimming is wrong so I'm not going to.
Sure, you could try using a boat, but who knows if that's going to suddenly spring a leak and sink?
And if you do find yourself drowning because you haven't taken my advise? Well, you got yourself into that position and now you have to just deal with the consequences.

[KabeRinnaul]

I like the part where everyone assumes we think our personal decision about our own relationship and sexuality should be enforced for everyone else.