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[Rubystars]

It's true that a lot of 'legals' are here because they were orginally 'anchor babies' and therefore were raised to not do anything to make 'mama and poppy' go away, and some 'legals' use their status to help cover for illegal family members or are at least sympathetic to them.

I think if you don't live here in this region it's hard to understand how devastating it can be to see a first world city's demographics change so much when overrun by third world immigrants, whether legal or illegal. Especially when said immigrants often refuse to learn the language or adopt the local culture and in some cases openly advocate the concepts of Reconquista.

I wish I could find it now, I'll have to do a search, but I saw a video a while back of a protest in California where angry illegal immigrants were shouting things like "Anglos go back to England!"

I'll be looking for examples like this to post here to show people that there really is a struggle here for cultural dominance, that should never have been allowed to happen if the borders had been secure and the laws enforced.

[Rubystars]

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This is very eye-opening and shows how alive the reconquista movement is, and it's only a few minutes long, but it shows that Reconquista is not a fringe element of illegal alien thinking either:

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/05/03/reconquista-101/

Here's another excellent expose of how they really feel and really are:
http://www.wehategringos.com/index2.shtml

The video on the latter web site shows them praising Zarqawi for "Killing Gringos" and making other such inflammatory statements.

[squall]

I still think that these groups are a fringe. This message of reconquista is completely new to me, as many legals and illegal that live around me, you would think I would have heard of it before. I highly doubt that the majority of Latinos here feel that way. White people and black people also have their psycho fringe groups.

I just loved this quote"It is you who will be deported"(spoken to the anglos).....well not if the US government has anything to say about it! Ha!

There's probably more KKK, Skinheads, and Black Panthers than there are Reconquistadors, I have not seen exact numbers. KKK numbers in the 30,000 or so nationwide.

I think treating all legals and illegals like they are here for reconquest is maybe a little out of line. Kind of like how many black people think that all white people are racist, and will take any opportunity to call them out with a race card. Just my opinion though.

[squall]

It's true that a lot of 'legals' are here because they were orginally 'anchor babies' and therefore were raised to not do anything to make 'mama and poppy' go away.

And why should they do that? I mean send them away...is that their duty as an American?

[Rubystars]

What the first video shows was that people who were considered to be fairly mainstream were also supporting it. I've seen quite a bit of people who believe that way myself, the sucky customers I described being one example.

The reason why you may not have heard enough about it is that these kinds of things aren't reported as much. Go to any large protest they have and watch the signs they're carrying. You'll see the same thing that is in these videos.

They don't have to be militant to be supportive of this movement either, they just 'vote with their feet' and overwhelm us through numbers and breeding.

As for 'anchor babies' sending their illegal parents back to Mexico, they shouldn't have been citizens to begin with. Children of illegal immigrants should NOT become citizens. However, it is the duty of every American to respect the law. The main problem is that the law is not being enforced and is being blatantly disregarded.

[Rapscallion]

Burden on the economy?

Heh. Some unscrupulous companies get them to work at a cheap rate, thereby being able to afford to charge you less for their services/products. True, they don't pay tax, but then they also have to try and produce documentation when needing anything like welfare or health insurance. They're not going to get very far like that - as far as I understand it, most suffer in silence.

Rapscallion

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I'm sure if I go to a KKK rally, they will be carrying signs with anti-racial slogans. Go where they are, and I will see them, yep. As for breeding....having children is a big conspiracy to take over the country? Well I'll be damned.... So that makes them reconquistadors?

[Rubystars]

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Burden on the economy?

Heh. Some unscrupulous companies get them to work at a cheap rate, thereby being able to afford to charge you less for their services/products. True, they don't pay tax, but then they also have to try and produce documentation when needing anything like welfare or health insurance. They're not going to get very far like that - as far as I understand it, most suffer in silence.

Rapscallion

We end up paying more than what they contribute to us.

Since many don't have insurance, they end up in emergency rooms when they need medical care, and they don't pay their own medical bills. This falls on the taxpayer. They also can get social assistance programs like WIC that are a direct drain on the taxpayer every time they have another baby. Because they come from the third world, they bring third world disease and sanitation practices with them. Tuberculosis is one of the diseases that is on the rise again thanks to them having no medical screening before entering the country.

More diseases they bring with them are listed here:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Cosman/madeleine3.htm

The treatments for theses diseases again fall on the taxpayers and on ordinary Americans who may or may not have insurance when they catch the contagious diseases. Our insurance rates often go up because this drives up the cost of medicine in general.

Much of the money they do make is directly drained out of the economy and sent back to poor relatives in Mexico or another country of origin. If paid to an American worker, this money would have been back in our economy, being spent or invested here.

I believe I already mentioned the identity theft epidemic which ties directly back to this flood of illegals needing a valid Social Security number. That in itself has gigantic costs.

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Also, rubystars, you mentioned this twice; the way you say it makes me think that the legal children should send their parents back to Mexico, assuming they are old enough of course. So do you think they should? I'm interested the answer.

[Rubystars]

If an American citizen has any respect for the laws of this country, they will want those that are not here legally to be deported, so yes, 'anchor babies' should send their parents back home. I realize that this is unrealistic, therefore, that's one reason that I don't think they should be allowed to become citizens in the first place.

And I wasn't telling you to go to radical protests, I was telling you to go to ANY large protest of illegals demanding rights. Just because the news cameras usually don't focus on those signs doesn't mean they're not there. It would be interesting for you to go to one of those protests then see how it's covered by the mainstream news outlets and note the differences.

[squall]

So if my dad is a lifelong marijuana smoker.....should I send him to the authorities? He may or may not be, just saying.

[Rubystars]

I think that he should stop breaking the law until marijuana is legalized and that you should encourage him to do so.

[squall]

Exactly why I don't think they have the duty to send them back. We are not legally binded to do so. We are not complicit as their offspring.

[Rubystars]

I think it's a big problem that so many so-called citizens have more loyalty to foreign nationals than they do to this country. That's my main concern with it.

Whether your dad smokes pot or not has no bearing on national security. Immigration laws very much do.

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Ever heard of the saying "loyalty to God, then to family, then to whatever else?" Personally, I would be offended if they sold out their parents because of the laws of the land. Not realistic in any fashion anyway, so I'll drop the point.