"Porn culture"

[Bloodsoul]

If I could "program" a woman it would be to easily find the cube root of numbers.

[jackfaire]

The porn as a gate way to more deviant stuff is actually a bad argument and ignores the fact that the "more deviant" stuff is hard to damn find.

If you have a fetish or a particular kink beyond watching two people have sex then just watching two people have sex isn't necessarily what you want.

People ignore the fact that Porn Movies are in fact Movies.

Assuming all people should just like watching any video of two people having sex is like saying if you like Action Comedies you automatically like Action Thrillers after all they are both action movies right?

"Regular" porn sucks because it just assumes that as long as 2 people are having sex then the viewer is happy with it.

So if you dare to want anything with any production value or a story line more advanced than "Ooops no money for the pizza guy" then your a deviant who must be porn obsessed.

Can't be that fantasies about delivering pizza to some horny co-ed just doesn't do it for you.

[Jaden]

The only harm that I think porn (that is legal, of course) could cause is unrealistic expectations in young people, especially young men, when they first start watching it after hitting puberty and before having sex. It can potentially provide a completely unrealistic view of what to expect when a teenager has nothing else to compare it to, like his own experiences. Other than that, it's usually just used for harmless fantasy fulfillment, so who cares?

[Lace Neil Singer]

The sex = rape point of view annoys me, cuz it's completely ignoring the fact that rape is NOT about sex, it's a control thing and/or a means of torture, using sex as a weapon. A lot of rapists get off on the fact that they have their victim completely under their control, that they have this person who is frightened to an extent that they'll do whatever the rapist says if it means that they'll live.

Last time I checked, that didn't apply to sex. Methinks that some of the people who hold that view need a good seeing to in order to fully re-educate them. XD

[Ladeeda]

Thing is, porn is NOT always a safe environment. Lack of condom use, many actresses have a bit of MJ to relax, especially when doing things like anal without much by way of lube. There are plenty of hospital trips to stitch up torn lower areas, and far too many STIs spread since, for some reason, condoms aren't sexy.

However, banning porn won't do jack to stop this. Rather, there should be stricter regulations on STI tests for actors, condom use, and other safety features. Introduce female condoms, which won't be seen by the audience. Make them use the goddamned lube.

Also, don't buy porn unless you're sure it's from a legitimate production company that pays and treats their actors well.

[fireheart17]

The only harm that I think porn (that is legal, of course) could cause is unrealistic expectations in young people, especially young men, when they first start watching it after hitting puberty and before having sex. It can potentially provide a completely unrealistic view of what to expect when a teenager has nothing else to compare it to, like his own experiences. Other than that, it's usually just used for harmless fantasy fulfillment, so who cares?

Which pretty much makes proper sexual education all the more important. Masturbation included.

Introduce female condoms, which won't be seen by the audience. Make them use the goddamned lube.

Also, don't buy porn unless you're sure it's from a legitimate production company that pays and treats their actors well.

People still buy pr0n? Also female condoms can be seen, albeit slightly.

[siead_lietrathua]

kinda wanna note that porn is, in the end, a movie. things like lubing, body prep, deepthroat induced gagging and condom application all happen off screen or on the cutting room floor. wanting realistic porn is like asking for a realistic action film where you see them planting the squibs before the scene. it ruins the fun!
even homemade, amature x-tube stuff has editing cuts FFS.

[Ginger Tea]

Safe working environment also depends on the niche involved, some audiences want to see condomless sex, rough sex extreme bdsm and scat.

Some can fake bdsm others could but wouldn't and wysiwyg, but the one getting a gigerette burn is probably willing to recieve said burn if it were real, if not then I'm pretty sure some form of abuse charge could be filed.

I'm baffled as to how skin mags survived into the 21st century what with 12-15 image samples sometimes in readable format eg

website/images/01/01.jpg

meaning that you can have a gander in /02/ and onwards till you get a 404, all for free.
Many years ago some of the magazines I tried (and still have tbh) gave a 5 photo shoot spread across 3 pages, granted they were the lower end mags but even big names like Mayfair seem to be rather lackluster.

The only benefits I can see are their portability, but I guess some do take laptops into the loo with them I guess.

[Andara Bledin]

.... That would explain why so many drop their smartphones into toilets... >_>

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[Ginger Tea]

gigerette burn

Typeo I know, but Giger-esque porn exists, hell in may I was talking to some guys I know visititing my brother and I broght up Alien cunnilingus, that second mouth is not meant to go there.

[Greenday]

.... That would explain why so many drop their smartphones into toilets... >_>

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A lot of the major porn sites have smartphone apps or smartphone friendly pages. So I hear...

[Jester]

I have never made a secret about the fact that I like porn. Have for years. I also have a good friend who was an adult film actress for several years. So allow me to make a few comments....

Masturbation is a sex act where only one person is involved. You are of the same sex as yourself. Therefore, on some level, masturbation is an inherently homosexual act.

There are two obvious flaws to this theory. First, masturbation is AUTOsexual, not HOMOsexual. Secondly, how would that explain masturbation by hermaphrodites?

"All men are potential rapists," which (strictly speaking) is sort-of true.

Equally true, though probably more offensive to a lot of people, is that "all women are potential sluts," or "all women are potential willing rape victims," or "all women are potential crack whores." These are empty statements, because they only talk of potentiality, not actuality. To take it further, and make the ridiculousness of it more obvious, here are a few more potentialities:

"All men are potential drag queens."
"All women are potential NASCAR drivers."
"All people are potential Olympic gold medalists."
"All people are potential serial killers."
"All women are potential beekeepers."
"All men are potential gardeners for Martha Stewart."
"All children are potential pyromaniacs."
"All dogs are potential killers."
"All teachers are potential pedophiles."
"All priests are potential psychotic tyrannical dictators of rogue Third World countries."

I have the potential to dunk a basketball, play lead guitar for the Stones, and sell drugs to Lindsay Lohan. I do not, however, have the ability, the talent, or the connections, respectively, to do any of those things.

And yes, as PepperElf pointed out, women have the potential to be rapists as well. And some actually ARE rapists, of other women, of children, and yes, even men.

And while it is easy and truthful to say that the average man could overpower the average woman, not everyone is average. My female coworker, while only 2 inches taller than me, can quite easily bear hug a full beer keg and place it on a chest high shelf in the beer cooler. I cannot. She could without question overpower me, being not just taller, but bigger, more muscular, and probably in better shape. She's definitely stronger, having once been a professional body builder, and I have said to her with utmost respect, "You are one badass bitch." I know a lot of guys that could quite easily get their ass kicked and be overpowered by her.

But you don't have to be an Amazon to be a female rapist. A waif of a girl can rape a man, if she uses her most powerful muscle: her brain. Because, let's face it, if Kate Moss is pointing a shotgun at them, most guys are going to submit to whatever diabolical plan she has in store for them, to avoid having their head made into pate.

...the often-ignored fact that some men *don't* fight back because, the moment they do... society & the law will brand them as women-beaters.

Slightly off topic: I often hear the phrase "there's never a reason for a man to hit a woman." Which I disagree with. Sometimes, it is absolutely imperative. For example, if a woman is coming at me with a knife with the clear intent of carving me like a turkey, I promise you I will knock her the fuck out in self-defense. Because, quite honestly, my life is far more important to me than my honor. And let's not forget about defending others. True life example: a good friend's 11 year old daughter was choked by her aunt, the sister of the girl's father, and grandma locked the girl and herself in the bathroom and called the police. I happen to know this girl and adore her, and had I been there to witness this, I PROMISE you I would have swung at Auntie to protect the girl.

Would I hit a woman in anything other than self-defense, or defense of another? I can't really see it, no. But to say there is NEVER a reason to strike a woman is, while unpopular to say it, blatantly unrealistic.

Okay, back to the "evil" of porn. Hope I didn't stray too far afield with that one!

i dunno why people treat porn as a gateway to deviancy. people will generally only look up porn of things they already have a "taste" for.

True. I am not, for example, into BDSM, and I don't care for BDSM porn. It doesn't turn me on, and actually creeps me out a bit. Do I object to it? I only object to watching it. The people who act in it are doing so of their own free will, and those who watch it are doing the same. As long as I am not forced to watch it, I could give two shits if it exists. And, other than some obviously unrealistic plot points (such as the actors being superheros), I can't think of any adult movie I've enjoyed that didn't reflect my own sexual experiences or preferences. Also, I tend to seek out and enjoy watching the types of women that I seek out and enjoy being intimate with: I like petite women with long hair in my life, and so I enjoy watching that same type in porn. (Hello, Gwen Summers.)

If I could "program" a woman it would be to easily find the cube root of numbers.

Me, I'd program her to bring me beers and give me blowjobs, but I'm easy like that.

So if you dare to want anything with any production value or a story line more advanced than "Ooops no money for the pizza guy" then your a deviant who must be porn obsessed.

Can't be that fantasies about delivering pizza to some horny co-ed just doesn't do it for you.

Porn with actual plots and story lines are preferable to me, as they provide context, which makes the movie more arousing and exciting. Two people randomly fucking? Yeah, rarely is that as much fun. And let's face it, the recent rash of porn parodies can be absolutely hilarious.

What? Sex, funny? Why yes, yes it is. And if you've never laughed or giggled while having sex, I feel so bad for you, as you're missing out on a seriously joyous part of life.

The only harm that I think porn (that is legal, of course) could cause is unrealistic expectations in young people, especially young men, when they first start watching it after hitting puberty and before having sex.

I saw porn long before I had sex. Did it give me unrealistic expectations? I don't think so. If anything, it put into visual context what my father awkwardly told me and what my sex ed teacher clinically taught the class. I turned out alright, I think, despite have seen, and enjoyed, porn in my early teen years. Hell, I not only remember the first porn movie I ever saw, years later, I found it on the net and bought it. Eighties porn...hilarious! (But, in some respects, far more entertaining and with better production values than most of today's porn. Weird, that.)

Thing is, porn is NOT always a safe environment. Lack of condom use, many actresses have a bit of MJ to relax, especially when doing things like anal without much by way of lube. There are plenty of hospital trips to stitch up torn lower areas, and far too many STIs spread since, for some reason, condoms aren't sexy.

All performers are adults, all sign contracts, and all presumably know about and agree to what they are doing. And are paid for it. So if there are unsafe risks, they are taking those risks knowingly and (hopefully) with full awareness of the potential repercussions.

People still buy pr0n? Also female condoms can be seen, albeit slightly.

Yes. Why? Do you need some suggestions?

[siead_lietrathua]

All performers are adults, all sign contracts, and all presumably know about and agree to what they are doing. And are paid for it. So if there are unsafe risks, they are taking those risks knowingly and (hopefully) with full awareness of the potential repercussions.

agreed. once you take out the consent to what's going on you aren't watching porn. you're watching amateur morons taping their crimes. no legit company gets involved in non-con that isn't fake.