Having taste = shallow.... / Hating on attractive girls....

[siead_lietrathua]

side-note yet kinda-related: it drives me nuts when other people dictate what tastes should be. fantastic you are into that supermodel. some men like big girls, it doesnt make them "settling" it makes them guys that dig big girls. lol.
same other way around. i get so much greif from other females because i dont find the kind of guys they like attractive. that's great you wanna go to the bar and chase after 20-somethings that look like they walked off some tv show. im gonna go hang with the older, geeky silver-foxes kthxbai.

[Mytical]

^^ This. Said much better then I could have said it. If you find somebody attractive, it does not matter what somebody else thinks.

[Boozy]

In her case, it's as much the poses as the outfits (or lack thereof). One of the other photos from the shoot is her in a tulle skirt and a halter top, lying on her stomach on the grass at a park, her bare feet kicked up behind her. It's a really cute shot and doesn't give off any of that "tramp" vibe that the other two do, despite not being any more clothing than the first one.

Exactly - there's a difference between a photo in which a girl looks pretty and a photo in which she looks seductive.

Personally, I feel that teenagers who are already publishing "come hither" photographs of themselves in newspapers and on the web are probably on the short track for work in the sex industry. Not as porn stars necessarily, but maybe as nude models or perhaps strippers.

For the record, I don't have a problem with women who choose that kind of career path, although I do think 18 is too young to be making that kind of choice.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I will say this; I would probably, by someone who's used to viewing skinny supermodels, be considered "large". I'm tall, and have an hourglass body type with big hips and big boobs. I've also struggled with body image issues for years, where I considered myself to be ugly. However, a lot of guys have told me that I'm wrong, and that they think I'm hot.

My fiance thinks the same; he doesn't mind it when guys chat me up, cuz he trusts me. I normally flash my ring and get the response of "he's a lucky guy". Cuz of my image issues, sometimes it really puzzles me when some sexy guy tells me I'm "hot"; especially if there's thinner, prettier women in the room.

I will say this; I think it's all down to personal preference. Mine tends to lean toward rocker and biker types, of which Fiance is a perfect example. However, show me a boy band type and he'll just leave me cold.

[HEMI6point1]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I look at some of the women proclaimed to be the most beautiful in the world by magazines..and say "Meh." I look around the streets, in the classes I take, the photos shared by some of the members of CS.com..and I see absolutely gorgeous women. What I do not understand is when one of them states that they are not beautiful.

Jennifer Aniston was voted "hottest woman" recently. Do I think she's beautiful? Yes. Hottest woman? No. Personally I think Amber Heard is hotter, but because she plays for the other team so to speak I think that hurt her in that poll. But in reality it's all subjective, there are some women I think are gorgeous that my buddies - after looking them up - say, "She's busty and that's it, so what?"

Do I think somebody like Mila Jovovich, or Amy Lee (singer of Evanescence), is beautiful? Yes. I also realize that they have professional make up artists, hair dressers, wardrobe people, and such that spend HOURS to take an already attractive person and make them even more so. Yet, to me .. not so much. Don't know why but the less makeup and such a woman wears..the more attractive they are to me.

I actually happen to agree with this, less makeup is actually more attractive than trying to look like a freakin' doll. My favorite glamour photography website is like this, they don't airbrush and have minimal makeup.

I don't think anybody dismissing somebody they are not attracted to is shallow, male or female, but I do think people have been programmed to think only certain types can be attractive. I mean look at any movie that is about some girl being transformed from 'geek' to 'beauty'. They have to lose the glasses, etc to be 'accepted'. To me they were more beautiful before then after.

Completely agree with this. Glasses on women are very sexy IMO....

Yes I am rambling again, sorry bad habit..back on topic. I think the op is right. There are double standards for men and women. I think a lot of it is attitude however. Lets take a woman who turns down a guy. Not always do we consider it that she has taste, sometimes people think of her as the 'b' word..depending on how it is handled. Not always is the guy considered a shallow hal because he turns down a woman, in fact sometimes they are considered 'a nice guy'. Yeah, society is easier on women who turn down guys..and sometimes the guy is thought of as 'creepy' for even trying, but that is life. *shrug*

One thing (and this was brought up in a recent thread I believe): Many times, the biggest difference between "creepy" and non-creepy when you try to hit on a girl is looking like a dork/nerd and looking like Tom Brady or George Clooney. Sad, but true.

And before any of you guys hit me, yes, I realize that Ms. Day is an actual gamer. But I fervently believe that she has milked that for success because, frankly, she isn't good looking or talented enough to make it otherwise.

Well this may come as a shock but.... I have to agree.... somewhat. I looked up a few pics and while she certainly isn't ugly, she isn't beautiful either. Would I turn her down? Probably not LOL.

[Andara Bledin]

I looked up a few pics and while she certainly isn't ugly, she isn't beautiful either. Would I turn her down? Probably not LOL.

She's a bit odd-looking, to be honest. I remember when I first heard about her wondering what the hell all the fuss was about.

She's a great case showing how much a good personality can do to make a person more attractive.

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[bara]

Ill admit, that I think there has to be a physical attraction for a relationship to work. It doesnt have to be an OMG SHES HAWT type of thing.
But there has to be at least some physical attraction.

[Hyena Dandy]

My fiance thinks the same; he doesn't mind it when guys chat me up, cuz he trusts me. I normally flash my ring and get the response of "he's a lucky guy". Cuz of my image issues, sometimes it really puzzles me when some sexy guy tells me I'm "hot"; especially if there's thinner, prettier women in the room.

Maybe they're picking up on your Ponyswag?




Anyway, here's my thing. If you'll outright dismiss the possibility of being with someone because you don't find them physically attractive, then yes, that is being shallow. But being attracted to, and WANTING to go out with a particularly attractive woman, isn't.

[HYHYBT]

I won't claim to believe this; it's just one of those things I've heard somewhere and somewhen etc...

Some believe that guys who only show interest in women who are hopelessly out of their league and/or famous aren't as straight as they like to believe themselves to be, and are putting up a front.

[Iseeyouthere]

It seems like it is the Looks > Personality these days.
You both gotta look so pretty, your sparkles put the vampires to shame. -.-'

But if you are too pretty... you are a whore.
Don't mind me, but if I could, I would introduce sledgehammer to face with some people. That way, they can have a face to match their attitude.

But don't worry too much about it... You can always move to Australia. According to this person, we have lower standards.

[Gravekeeper]

This is actually wrong.

It is neither wrong nor right. I would say it very much depends on the person. But I would also say that for the majority its probably not that bad advice wise. Like it or not, looks are important. So is personality. But if you have a hit on one and a fail on the other, you may be setting yourself up for long term difficulty.

As for me, I look at it as objective and Subjective beauty. A concept I've found many people don't seem to understand. Oddly, mostly females. I got grilled for half a shift by a female coworker once over why I could agree Angelina Jolie was attractive but not actually be attracted to her.

Hollywood beauty does utterly nothing for me nor does breast size or anything like that. Even I have some difficulty defining my tastes because its more I see it and go "Ah, there it is". Though I have observed it drawn towards quirky, imperfect ( every masterpiece should have a single flaw? -.- ) or exotic ( as in not painfully white like myself ).

[Andara Bledin]

It is neither wrong nor right. I would say it very much depends on the person.

Except that the statement was an absolute, and we know that there are exceptions, meaning that it is wrong.

But, yes, it does very much depend upon the person, so making it a blanket statement is still wrong.

You co-worker is a twit. There are lots of people I can agree are attractive but "not my thing." Which covers the vast majority of women and not just a few men.

In my case, bodybuilders. There are some bodybuilders out there who have stunning physiques and the classic chiseled features, but I don't really go for buffed out guys, so they don't do anything for me. But I can certainly step back and see how, for someone who either liked or didn't dislike the look, they would be considered attractive or "hot".

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[guywithashovel]

One person left a comment that I thought was interesting, but sadly true: When a man fails a woman's physical attraction test, she has taste. When a woman fails a man's physical attraction test, he's a shallow hal.

From my experience, when people complain a lot about being overlooked because of their looks, they themselves are often just as shallow as the ones they criticize, sometimes even more so.

Example: I've been on and off an online dating site for a while. Often I'll see a profile where the woman says "I've always been the ugly duckling" or "I wish someone could see me for more than my waist size." It'll usually turn out that she's saying "I wish someone who looks like he just stepped off the pages of a Macy's ad could see me for more than my waist size.

One time, I requested communication with one of those women. Now, on this site, you go through several "stages" of communication. Also, you can set it up so that matches can only see your photo if they get to a later stage of communication. At this point in time, my profile was set so that my photo was only visible once the match got to the second stage of communication with me.

As soon as we got to that second stage of communication and she saw my photo, she closed me out. I guess even "ugly ducklings" and "big waist sizes" have standards, too.

[HEMI6point1]

I won't claim to believe this; it's just one of those things I've heard somewhere and somewhen etc...

Some believe that guys who only show interest in women who are hopelessly out of their league and/or famous aren't as straight as they like to believe themselves to be, and are putting up a front.

Well then I guess every man that likes models celebs etc is gay then....

[Andara Bledin]

Well then I guess every man that likes models celebs etc is gay then....

Except that wasn't what was said.

If the person in question only ever expresses interest in specific models, and not non-models who happen to be similarly attractive, then there's a good chance there's something else going on.

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