4th amendment rights

[rahmota]

Well I'll agree that the second gets the most press time. But there are organizations that are there to protect the others. And believe it or not the NRA does care abotu and encourage its members to work to support the entire bill of rights not just the second.

The only thing is the press and media dont sell papers if you hear Citizen exercised their 4th amendment rights and was hiding nothing.

!st amendment rights exercised today as church leaders spoke out against the government.

Its usually used in conjunction with like Boozy said bad people plead the fifth to avoid getting into trouble. You see that sort of behavior in all the popular media. Watch law and order and see how they react when a person denies them a search request, CSI is another one guilty as heck of that. It shows people being bullyed into letting the cops search them and viola it shows why they where tryign to avoid being searched they where hiding something. So that puts a precedent into the minds of peopel that if you have somethign to hide is only when you can invoke your rights.

Its the way the media movies, tv shows, internet, games, books, everything shows the invocation of your rights as somethign a guilty person does to try and hide from the eyes of the heroic law enforcering good guys....

Sad thing is if you have to invoke your rights its already too late as the bad guys are not going to care.

[CancelMyService]

Well I'll agree that the second gets the most press time. But there are organizations that are there to protect the others.

Yeah, but those groups (like the ACLU) are usually labeled as evil and "America-hating" because they tend to point out how a lot of the laws passed in the last 6 years or so are patently unconstitutional.

And believe it or not the NRA does care abotu and encourage its members to work to support the entire bill of rights not just the second.

Yes, but the NRA clearly focuses a great deal of it's efforts on the Second. If they really had interest in all the Amendments they wouldn't support so many candidates that favor unconstitutional laws just because they had the "correct" views on gun issues.

!st amendment rights exercised today as church leaders spoke out against the government.

This is actually a hot button issue for me. Personally I don't fee churches should be tax exempt, but since they are they should not be used for political purposes. When you're in a building where you're taught what you hear there is the undeniable word of God, it's really not the place for politicking, which happens a great deal in PA.



Finally, while I do like crime shows (especially the Law & Order franchise), they do go out of their way to illustrate that the cops are always correct and you should always allow them to conduct a search. Doing otherwise is a dead giveaway that you're the criminal and/or have something hidden.

[rahmota]

Yeah, but those groups (like the ACLU) are usually labeled as evil and "America-hating"

Yep those in power hate to be reminded of their abuse of power. So they set up a negative propaganda campaign and this is the result of it.

Yes, but the NRA clearly focuses a great deal of it's efforts on the Second. If they really had interest in all the Amendments they wouldn't support so many candidates that favor unconstitutional laws just because they had the "correct" views on gun issues

true the NRA does set the rpiroitiy on protecting the second amendment higher than they probably should (and I'm a life member sayign this) but there is the ILA (Institute for Legal Action) http://www.nraila.org which is there for the grassroots and legal actions adn they do get involve in situations supporting the rest of the rigts, especially where they interconnect with the 2nd..

Personally I don't fee churches should be tax exempt, but since they are they should not be used for political purposes

Agreed as to that. The example I used was the first one that came to mind that would combine the various aspects of the 1st amendment. Personally if a church wants to become involved in any way shape or form in politics then it should give up its tax exempt status. Of course I also think churches should be more tightly regulated as to their actions and supports involving politics in general otherwise they should be liscenced.

[EmiOfBrie]

I know in New Jersey that there is a law saying that if you are pulled over, and the officer asks to search the car, you don't have the right to say no. I don't know if that's everywhere, but that's what I heard in my Driving Class.

Even if there is such a law, it's unconstitutional. Constitution trumps state laws.

[MadMike]

Personally if a church wants to become involved in any way shape or form in politics then it should give up its tax exempt status.

George Carlin said something like that once. "If they're so interested in politics, let them pay their fucking admission like everyone else!"