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  • #31
    The last time I checked theres nothing in the bible requiring a Catholic to have sex. If she won't take birth control and can't afford to have kids she should stop having sex. If she won't then the government needs to step in because she is being negligent.

    I think proper sex education is great, but people need to be willing to live with the risks. Speeding is great to but if I get a ticket I'm not going to whine that I shouldn't have to pay for it. I took a risk and lost.

    I think a good idea for sex education would be to emphasize kinds of sex that have lower chances of pregnancy such as oral or anal sex.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by elsporko View Post
      I think a good idea for sex education would be to emphasize kinds of sex that have lower chances of pregnancy such as oral or anal sex.
      Actually, planned parenthood just started promoting anal sex.

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      • #33
        Actually, I believe that I've read that teens who take virginity pledges are more likely to get an STD because they will engage in non-vaginal sex (oral or anal) and because it's not 'real sex' they won't use protection. While anal sex has a lower risk of pregnancy, there's still a risk of disease, so you still need to use protection.

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        • #34
          I didn't mean that I should be given total control, Admin. But if I am being forced essentially against my will to pay for someone else's children or medical procedure, I don't see why I (or more correctly, the public at large) don't get some say. Am I supposed to be happy to pay for fake stereotype's 9 children and addiction to scratch-off tickets?

          Hmmmm.... I'm spinning it around, like you said... ok. I agree that I don't get to tell someone to get their tubes tied against their will. But, I also agre that I shouldn't have to pay for someone's 14th child when it's clear that they just can't keep their Mister Happy Puppet in their pants. The fairest thing to do there would be to.... not make me pay. My money, my choice.

          But--But--how will we decide things like that. The answer... a little more of what we already do, I think. If you're on the public dole for child care, expect the social worker to get a little more personal than you like about your behaviors. Don't lke it? Then stop putting out. And keep that 21st phlange tucked away.

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          • #35
            While anal sex has a lower risk of pregnancy...
            I should hope so! Better be darn close to 0! But it's foolish to think it doesn't count as sex, and moreso to think you can't catch anything that way.
            "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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            • #36
              But it's foolish to think it doesn't count as sex, and moreso to think you can't catch anything that way.
              Keep in mind these are the same people who have to ask if you can get pregnant if you swallow.
              I am a sexy shoeless god of war!
              Minus the sexy and I'm wearing shoes.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by elsporko View Post
                The last time I checked theres nothing in the bible requiring a Catholic to have sex. If she won't take birth control and can't afford to have kids she should stop having sex. If she won't then the government needs to step in because she is being negligent.
                I don't think it's "sex" per se, I think it's more the fact that they want to bring someone else into the world to love as God loves them...or something like that (can anyone here back me up?)

                Originally posted by Nyoibo View Post
                Keep in mind these are the same people who have to ask if you can get pregnant if you swallow.
                Not to mention if you have sex standing up, or with the women on top. Or if you're on your period, haven't had your period YET....

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                • #38
                  Keep in mind these are the same people who have to ask if you can get pregnant if you swallow.
                  Trick question. Of course you can get pregnant if you swallow (assuming you are a fertile woman, of course.) You just can't get pregnant from what you swallowed. Next sample, please!
                  "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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                  • #39
                    This is the part where I slap you with a fish yes?
                    I am a sexy shoeless god of war!
                    Minus the sexy and I'm wearing shoes.

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                    • #40
                      Only if they're incapable of cutting down the mightiest tree in the forest, with:

                      A HERRING!
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by fireheart17 View Post
                        I don't think it's "sex" per se, I think it's more the fact that they want to bring someone else into the world to love as God loves them...or something like that (can anyone here back me up?)
                        There are a couple of verses that are escaping me right now. There's a verse that says something about one of the responsibilities of a married couple is to procreate, but I can't remember it off the top of my head. Too damn tired. But if I remember right, in 1Corinthians Chapter 7, Jesus says that married couples should have sex regularly to keep the devil from tempting them with sexual desires. However, he says it's a recommendation and not a command.

                        I'd have to look these up when I'm more cognitive than I am now.

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                        • #42
                          Actually, in 1Cor, Jesus says NOTHING, because he was already dead (and risen if you're christian). Paul wrote Corinthians.

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                          • #43
                            Adding to that, Paul doesn't say anything about how often married couples should have sex. That chapter does, though, contain his not-exactly-resounding endorsement that "it is better to marry than to burn." Basically, the idea was that the world was going to end just any day now, so behave yourselves but don't worry about having children because there's not time to raise them anyway.
                            "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Fryk View Post
                              Actually, in 1Cor, Jesus says NOTHING, because he was already dead (and risen if you're christian). Paul wrote Corinthians.
                              I stand corrected.
                              Some People Are Alive Only Because It's Illegal To Kill Them.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by elsporko View Post
                                I wouldn't mind seeing a law that said if you have an abortion you also have to have your tubes tied. That would prevent these people who are too dumb to use birth control from using abortions as an alternative while still keeping it available to those who need it.
                                This, I can't agree with. I'm pro-life, with certain exceptions. However, many of the people I know who had abortions did so because, at that time in their lives, they felt they weren't ready for motherhood. Did I agree with it? Not a bit. Thing is, just because I disagree with the choice they made then doesn't mean I think they shouldn't be able to have a child later on.
                                Do not lead, for I may not follow. Do not follow, for I may not lead. Just go over there somewhere.

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