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  • Fox News = Political Cult?

    This is something I've been pondering for awhile. Fox News has a lot in common with religious cults to a somewhat scary degree.

    Think about it. All of their programming is geared toward a particular, consistent point of view and they aren't above using out of context quotes, misrepresented data and other deceitful stuff to "prove" what they are saying is "the truth".

    All of the reporters are bound by memos and guidelines issued by the corporate leaders and all of them basically fall in step as they are told to, almost blindly believing certain things to be true when they aren't (for example the oft mentioned point that Obamacare amounted to a "government takeover of healthcare").

    They aren't about a news, they are about a viewpoint, the same way a cult is.

    Think about how brainwashed some of their viewers are, there's been studies on how the view points of people who watch Fox News are radically different from those who watch other outlets or that people who watch Fox are more likely to believe certain things than those who don't (ie. Obama was not born in the U.S.).

    Fox has a lot of power and it seems to be growing since Obama took office. To me that's a pretty scary thing.

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    As long as we consider The Daily Show and Cobert Report members of a cult

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
      As long as we consider The Daily Show and Cobert Report members of a cult
      That makes no sense to me. A popular person with a devoted fan base is not the same as a narrative spun by an entire network.

      On top of that the goals of the two are completely different. One group wants you to watch and be fearful of whatever narrative they are trying to spin.

      The second is yes "spinning a narrative", but with the final goal of simply making you laugh.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
        As long as we consider The Daily Show and Cobert Report members of a cult
        That analogy is not quite on point.

        The Daily Show and the Colbert Report are at least partly presented as comedic programs. They don't entirely claim to be serious news programs.

        A better comparison would be MSNBC.

        I seem to recall that, in terms of news bias, Jon Stewart himself once compared MSNBC to FOX, and remarked :

        "By the way, MSNBC wishes they were as good as Fox. They're the Toledo Mud Hens to the Fox's Yankees."

        - Jon Stewart, The Daily Show
        FOX, MSNBC . . . Personally, I don't trust either one.
        "Well, the good news is that no matter who wins, you all lose."

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        • #5
          Both Fox and MSNBC are ridiculous. They aren't news stations. They are political stations.
          Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Greenday View Post
            Both Fox and MSNBC are ridiculous. They aren't news stations. They are political stations.
            So is CNN - in fact, all "news" media state the "news" that abides by their views. It is very hard to find an unbiased news source.

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            • #7
              I would say that MSNBC and CNN aren't as biased as Fox, though. I haven't seen an MSNBC/CNN host yell in someones face or promote sedition.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hobbs View Post
                I would say that MSNBC and CNN aren't as biased as Fox, though. I haven't seen an MSNBC/CNN host yell in someones face or promote sedition.
                Where's your proof that FoxNews did that?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by draggar View Post
                  So is CNN - in fact, all "news" media state the "news" that abides by their views. It is very hard to find an unbiased news source.
                  I suppose that is that makes The Daily show and the Colbert Report more trusted. They openly admit their bias, if only towards comedy (lately Stewart has been ripping into Obama and Colbert has been supporting more government oversight into the BP disaster, which is a flip-flop over how they did things).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lordlundar View Post
                    Iwhich is a flip-flop over how they did things).
                    No which is a change something is only a flip flop if it keeps changing back and forth.

                    Taking one stance then switching to another stance then back again then again to the other stance this is flip flopping.

                    Changing your mind about something is not flip flopping.

                    Just thought I would put that out there.
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                    • #11
                      I like Fox News, and I'm not a raving lunatic cult member or extremely conservative.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by daleduke17 View Post
                        Where's your proof that FoxNews did that?
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7-BvVDV10&feature=fvw
                        @ 3:45

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs_KXxOejXc
                        @ 4:40

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BAFb...eature=related
                        @ 2:40

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beJ9y...eature=related
                        @ 3:50

                        This is the best one:
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIVnwYGU9Qo

                        Need I go on?

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                        • #13
                          No kidding. I was watching Neil Cavuto earlier (wasn't feeling good, lying down on the couch, too lazy to change channel) and he had some Union rep guy on and he REPEATEDLY cut him off and talked over him and it was a very testy interview (hint: conservatives don't like unions)

                          As I was watching I was thinking to myself: "No respected anchor should blatantly cut a guest off like that unless the guest is out of control or being rude" (and the union guy was doing neither)

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                          • #14
                            LOL, I just knew that most of those examples were from Bill O'reilly.

                            Fair and balanced my ass.

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                            • #15
                              All news is bias. Foxnews is more bias than most.

                              I don't have numbers to back this up, but I would say that Foxnews is probably the most biased for the size of the audience it reaches.

                              Because of Fox news, there is now a legal precedent in America clearly establishing that it is not a crime for a news program to report 'facts' it knows to be untrue.

                              Two Journalists in Florida did an expose piece on how a certain chemical used in treating milk has been positively linked to causing disease in humans. (I'm being a little vague because I can't recall the specifics at the moment.) The company responsible for this happened to be a major sponsor. When the piece aired, it had been re-edited to say there were no such links whatsoever. The journalists were dismissed. They filed for protection under the whistleblowers act, and the court decided that act is only relevant if a crime has been committed, and made a clear ruling that it is not illegal in any way for a news program to knowingly lie to the public.

                              This particular story and several other similar stories can be seen in the documentary "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's war on journalism"

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