Birthers Want Obama to Submit to a DNA Test?

[crashhelmet]

It doesn't surprise me to learn that Joseph Farah, one of the prominent leaders of the "Birthers," is responsible for this idiocracy called journalism, but seriously?

It’s High Time to investigate Obama

The Birth Certificate that was provided, that you demanded, wasn't good enough? Now you insist that he prove that he is the child of the parents listed on that Birth Certificate because he might be adopted? This is based solely on the fact that the Director of the Health Dept said "vital records" and not "vital record"?

Oh Sweet Jesus!!!

It honestly scares me that the Democratic Party is not in danger of losing their "control" because of their programs or policies. They're in danger of losing it because of whack job conspiracy theorists and propagandists like the Birthers and the Tea Party. Is this the best that the Republican Party really has to offer? Do we really want these people running our country?

CH

[daleduke17]

That is an interesting question. How would an internationally adopted person be treated if they did not know they were foreign born, ran and won the Presidency and then found out they weren't eligibile?

[Hobbs]

IT's a moot question Dale, because that's not what happened.

[fireheart17]

-_- It honestly does not amaze me to see stuff like this.

When Julia Gillard took over as PM of Ausland, people started whinging that the country is being run by a woman and that she's a backstabbing evil heartless woman and picking on her for various aspects that other PM's had that she doesn't. (She's an atheist, has no kids and is unmarried).

[Greenday]

Of course the birth certificate wasn't good enough. It didn't give them the answer they wanted!

[lordlundar]

The Birth Certificate that was provided, that you demanded, wasn't good enough?

Don't forget that these are the same people who refused a Hawaiian birth certificate verified by three different investigation agencies saying it was faked, yet happily flaunt a Kenyan one that even has the Republicans saying it's as phony as a three dollar bill as proof he wasn't born in America.

And no, I am not making any of this up.

[Rapscallion]

Straws. They clutch at them.

Rapscallion

[BlaqueKatt]

It honestly scares me that the Democratic Party is not in danger of losing their "control" because of their programs or policies. They're in danger of losing it because of whack job conspiracy theorists and propagandists like the Birthers and the Tea Party.

Really?

On every issue polled in a new CNN/ORC survey, majorities say Democrats would move the country in the wrong direction if they remain in control of Congress.

by that stretch of logic the republicans lost control due to the "loose changers".
or Christianity lost it's power due to Fred Phelps-yup the whackjobs get the screentime don't they?

No it is their policies and programs-
Remember the man who claimed DOMA was bad had his appointed justice dept draft documents DEFENDING it.
People are mad at the bailouts
people are mad about the lack of jobs

Democrats face widespread criticism for overextending government actions on the economy, including the health care overhaul, the economic stimulus plan and the drilling moratorium. A federal report said the moratorium probably caused a temporary loss of 8,000 to 12,000 jobs in the Gulf region.

and there's this

the vacationing president brushed off pool reporters asking about scores of dead in Iraq. (“We’re ordering shrimp here, guys. Come on.”) If a Republican had done that, the left would have gone nuts.

Is this the best that the Republican Party really has to offer?

Not by a long shot-but the get the press-did any Democrat group fight as hard as the Log Cabin Republicans to a victory(possibly temporary-but at least it's something) against DADT-yes that injunction is from a lawsuit filed almost 10 years ago-before Obama's empty promises for equal rights.

[Hobbs]

[before Obama's empty promises for equal rights.

I could be wrong, but I was sure that DADT had been repealed and was awaiting confirmation.

[christopher]

How would checking his dna help? As far as we know he is human and we all have the same dna. I dont think you can tell if someone is foreign born by dna alone. I dont like him but he is president for now and they can and should find better ways to deal with the issues. He has already proved to be a natural born citizen. These pointless attacks just serve to make all of us conservatives look bad.

[Anthony K. S.]

It honestly scares me that the Democratic Party is not in danger of losing their "control" because of their programs or policies.

I like the fact that you put the word "control" in quotes.

You know, I still remember when the news broke that George W. Bush had set a new record in low approval ratings and high disapproval ratings.

I recall one political commentator talking about Bush's dubious accomplishment in setting this record . . . and then he took a swipe at Congressional Democrats as well.

He sarcastically congratulated them for also setting a record. The Congressional Democrats had somehow managed to lose every single legislative battle they ever fought against the most unpopular President in history.

Democrats doing what Democrats do best - Cave.

"Control" has, as far as I can remember, been a tenuous thing at best when it comes to Democrats.


I have not agreed with BlaqueKatt on many things, but I do have to agree on this one.

For all of the attention they get, the birthers do not, as far as I can see, hold much credibility among the general public.

No, if the Democrats lose control of Congress - as they almost certainly will - it will be because they failed to come through, even in the eyes of many liberals.

They had their moment in the spotlight, and they more or less blew it. It's over, and now it's the Republicans' turn.

Now, it's not all doom and gloom for the Democrats.

Heck, the Republicans had their moment in the spotlight and blew it, too. And now, just two years after their bloodbath at the polls, the GOP is getting yet another chance.

Why should the Democrats be any different?

When the voters only have two options to choose from, the pendulum can only swing so far before it has to swing back.

[daleduke17]

IT's a moot question Dale, because that's not what happened.

It is a great question for if it WERE to happen. I was not talking about Obama, I was legitly asking. Unfortunately Obama is President for another two years. There's not really anything one can do about it now, except find a bigger media darling to run opposite him in 2012.

[crashhelmet]

BlaqueKat, are you seriously blaming the Democrats for the Bailouts, War, unemployment, and the housing mess? Are you saying that if the Republicans were in office that they would NOT have done anything to favor the oil companies? They would've done more and then granted a contract to Halliburton.

Anthony K. S. I put the word control in quotations, because no one party ever has control, but they're made out as if they do. I guess I should've used the word majority.

The fact remains that on the Federal level, no one running for office is attacking the Democratic Party's programs or policies unless they're going after Healthcare. The pundits might be, but most of the time it's all spin and other media bullcrap trying to lay the blame on them for things like unemployment, housing, the bailouts, the war, etc. All things that the Republicans were responsible for that birthed the entire "Change" campaign.

Well, unless they're someone like Sharron Angle here in Nevada that wants to eliminate Social Security, the Department of Education, and mandates on insurance companies. She's actually making enemies within the Republican party here in Nevada.

CH

[Rapscallion]

I could be wrong, but I was sure that DADT had been repealed and was awaiting confirmation.

Last I heard, it had been declared as unconstitutional, and the military (I think, or perhaps the branch of government dealing with it) had sixty days to appeal the decision.

How would checking his dna help? As far as we know he is human and we all have the same dna. I dont think you can tell if someone is foreign born by dna alone. I dont like him but he is president for now and they can and should find better ways to deal with the issues. He has already proved to be a natural born citizen. These pointless attacks just serve to make all of us conservatives look bad.

There are differences in DNA from person to person. You can have a pretty good stab at someone's ancestry from theirs.

Whether someone was born in a certain country or not is not possible, but it's possible to say that someone's ancestors came from a particular region.

As you say, though, completely irrelevant.

Rapscallion

[Arcade Man D]

Remember the man who claimed DOMA was bad had his appointed justice dept draft documents DEFENDING it.

You mean having his Justice Department do what they are required to do?

I hate hearing that repeatedly, because it wasn't Obama's choice. The Justice Department defended it because they had to. Just like the DA's office has to prosecute a case even if s/he believes the law is unconstitutional.

People are mad at the bailouts

Not that it matters to the average voter, but the first bailouts in the recession were started by Dubya.

people are mad about the lack of jobs

That is mostly a problem caused by businesses not yet ready to commit to creating more jobs because we've only just turned around.

Not by a long shot-but the get the press-did any Democrat group fight as hard as the Log Cabin Republicans to a victory(possibly temporary-but at least it's something) against DADT-yes that injunction is from a lawsuit filed almost 10 years ago-before Obama's empty promises for equal rights.

This was a case of knowing public opinion. Obama knew that if the Dem congress had repealed DADT, it would hurt them in 2010 (moreso than doing nothing), and he wouldn't be able to do anything with a hostile Republican congress in the second half of his term. As well, if the Republicans managed to get 2/3 majority, they could override a veto on a re-passing of DADT. By forcing a decision on the constitutionality of DADT, Obama ensures it won't come back after it's gone.