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  • #31
    A college level academic study on the matter is going a bit too far, if you ask me.

    Especially if you want a double-blind study. How do you even HAVE a double-blind opinion poll?

    I'm actually on your side on this one (people didn't just vote for Obama because he's black) but I think you're asking far too much.
    "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
    ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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    • #32
      You honestly believe no one voted for Obama because he's black?
      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
        You honestly believe no one voted for Obama because he's black?
        Considering there are people who went on record saying they voted against him because he is black, I wouldn't consider it too much of a leep to think that people would vote for him for the same reason.
        "I'm Gar and I'm proud" -slytovhand

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        • #34
          Originally posted by smileyeagle1021 View Post
          Considering there are people who went on record saying they voted against him because he is black, I wouldn't consider it too much of a leep to think that people would vote for him for the same reason.
          Exactly. This is what would happen with a gay presidential candidate too.
          Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Greenday View Post
            This is what would happen with a gay presidential candidate too.
            No, it wouldn't, not if he runs as a Republican (or under a different Conservative banner). Conservatives won't vote for him strictly because he's gay. Liberals won't vote for him because he's a conservative. The ONLY people voting for him would be that small percentage of gay Conservatives. That's it. I don't know a SINGLE liberal who would vote for a conservative just because they were pro-LGBT rights.

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            • #36
              It wouldn't happen in nearly the amounts as it worked for Obama but there would still be a small minority who would do it.
              Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                You honestly believe no one voted for Obama because he's black?
                I do not honestly believe Obama was only ELECTED because he was black. I do believe people voted for him because he was black.
                "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
                ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hyena Dandy View Post
                  I do not honestly believe Obama was only ELECTED because he was black. I do believe people voted for him because he was black.
                  No one said he was elected because he is black.
                  Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                    No one said he was elected because he is black.
                    Dale said he was elected because he was black, I believe that's what was being responded to.
                    "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
                    ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Hyena Dandy View Post
                      Dale said he was elected because he was black, I believe that's what was being responded to.
                      Dale said a lot of people came out and said they voted for Obama because he is black.
                      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                      • #41
                        I concede that Dale didn't say that, but did at the very least IMPLY it.

                        We saw (or are seeing) how well voting for someone for some superficial reason is going right now.
                        "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
                        ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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                        • #42
                          Count me among those who doesn't understand why anyone would choose to support a group that actively works to keep them marginalized.

                          ^-.-^
                          Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                          • #43
                            And changing my ways and the way I vote just because I'm not rich or a man doesn't make much sense, either.

                            Sorry, that argument doesn't work.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                              Count me among those who doesn't understand why anyone would choose to support a group that actively works to keep them marginalized.

                              ^-.-^
                              That's an easy one. There is more to who I am than my sexuality.

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                              • #45
                                I don't support any group. I am a Republican, because most of the politicians I support are Republicans. But I do not believe in the 'purity' of the Republican party. I support individual people. Most are Republicans.

                                Because the Senators, and even Representatives, of the US are not as bound to their parties as those in, say, Canada or Great Britain, I can choose a Republican like Scott Brown, and not think that in doing so I am supporting Michelle Bachman or even Mitch McConnell.

                                I vote for people, not parties.

                                Though I am displeased with the Republican party as it stands, as they keep putting forward candidates I do not support. If this continues, I will leave the party. I will likely continue supporting the candidates I approve of, whether I'm a Republican, Democrat, or even Libertarian (my likely next party if I leave this one). My views will stay the same, and I will keep voting the way I do. I have never voted a straight ticket, except when Scott Brown was elected because he was the only person running for office at the time. I don't think I'll start anytime soon.
                                Last edited by Hyena Dandy; 03-28-2011, 11:47 PM.
                                "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
                                ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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