People completely refusing to give our President any credit at all for OBL's killing.

[chozoghost79]

Here's what I think of that: (quoting a classmate)


"President Obama did not pull the trigger. Neither did Osama Bin Laden fly a plane into the World Trade Centers. Either leadership counts or it doesn't."

I don't even for a minute want to discount the actions of the SEAL team who took him out. They took care of the most dangerous person alive, but they, like any element of our military, act under orders. Our President deserves credit just as much as the previous one would have, had he been the one to receive the intelligence and send the order to catch/kill OBL.

[kiwi]

I had to unfriend some idiot on facebook because over the last week he has blathered on about Trump/Obama and the birth certificate thing. Then when Osama was killed he started on that. I just can't tolerate that stupidity and call it "friend".

I wasn't surprised, this is the same guy who called his first born essynce (essence).

[chozoghost79]

Yeah it seems to be similar sentiment coming from the same types of people. Birth cert. stuff, then the college transcript thing, now this. Nobody has to like the President, but this stuff is just silly, like they can't find anything else.

[Greenday]

Hm, didn't see Obama risking his life to gain the necessary intelligence. Didn't see Obama risking his life to get Osama bin Laden. Pretty sure it was the CIA and ST6 that did all the risk taking. Sure, Obama gave the okay, but I don't exactly see that as deserving as nearly as much credit as the CIA/ST6.

[chozoghost79]

Hm, didn't see Obama risking his life to gain the necessary intelligence. Didn't see Obama risking his life to get Osama bin Laden.

. . .and that goes for any President in a similar situation. That said the CIA and SEAL Team 6 deserve the most credit for their making this operation a success.

[kiwi]

Green she say in the title it was people who wouldn't give Obama ANY credit, not MOST of the credit.

[insertNameHere]

I love how now they are saying he was unarmed. Considering the circus that would have resulted from a trial, and you know having to house him, worry about looking bad, treat him fairly. I'm glad they invested in lead instead.

But I can see them blaming Obama for letting him die unarmed.

[Greenday]

Green she say in the title it was people who wouldn't give Obama ANY credit, not MOST of the credit.

Credit for what? I don't count sitting at a desk and saying, "Go get him" to be really much of anything in this kind of operation. I could have done that if I was able to. In the scheme of things, his part in this operation was pretty much negligible.

[Rapscallion]

If the operation had been botched and it had turned out to be a heavily defended orphanage with many casualties amongst the inhabitants, how much of it would have been Obama's fault then?

Rapscallion

[Greenday]

If the operation had been botched and it had turned out to be a heavily defended orphanage with many casualties amongst the inhabitants, how much of it would have been Obama's fault then?

Rapscallion

None, CIA would have been blamed.

[Ree]

None, CIA would have been blamed.

Gotta love armchair quarterbacking.

You say that now because it's a moot point. The operation was a success.

I think, if you are really honest with yourself, you could admit that, if it hadn't have been a success, and it had actually turned into a bloody mess with heavy casualties for the team, it would have fallen entirely on Obama's shoulders,

[Racket_Man]

If the operation had been botched and it had turned out to be a heavily defended orphanage with many casualties amongst the inhabitants, how much of it would have been Obama's fault then?

Rapscallion

None, CIA would have been blamed.

at this point I will have Sherman set the wayback machine to 1980 during the Carter Administration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_ho...escue_attempts
Place: Iran
setting: the Pickup Military force sent in to rescue the US Emabssy hostiges taken one year prior.
Operation name: Eagle Claw

summary: the mission failed misserably.

was it the military that got blamed?? NO!
was the rescue attempt blamed?? NO!
were the planners blamed? Not really
was the PRESIDENT of the US blamed???? YES!!!

[Greenday]

Who got blamed for the WMD situation with Iraq? CIA

Gotta love armchair quarterbacking.

I do. I love it. Not entirely sure what is has to do with anything said in this thread so far.

[Evandril]

Let me put my own spin on it...The people who bug me the most (Besides the ones who claim obl really isn't dead) are the ones who claim President Obama doesn't deserve any credit, President Bush deserves all of it.

From the stories I heard about how it went down (purely from civilian sources, and none of them 'good' sources) President Obama had intelligence he was there months ago, and said to flatten the place...His advisors told him that'd be a bad idea, and reccommended the strike team that was used. He agreed with them, and not only went with their plan, he gave them the *TIME* needed to do so. If that is accurate, gives him quite a few points in my book, too used to politicians playing war without a clue, and wanting things done NOW...and the bad press he'd have gotten if obl had moved during the 'training' part would have been enough to insure he couldn't be elected as a meter-maid.

[mikoyan29]

And this is why I hate politics in the 24 hour news cycle period. A moment that should be for celebrating is turned into yet another opportunity to sling mud. So by using Palin's logic, Bush should get the blame for the massive debt too....Or was the 9 trillion or so added as soon as Obama took office? Funny thing is, I didn't vote for Obama but I'm finding myself liking him more and more. But then I look at the alternatives and what choice do I have?