Anti-abortion group seeks to outlaw contraceptives by redefining personhood

[Greenday]

If that were the case, abortion would be legal and it wouldn't even be in question.

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Exactly. It's absolutely ridiculousness that the courts even allow for this stuff to be up to debate.

[Dreamstalker]

If that were the case, abortion would be legal and it wouldn't even be in question.

Not only that but it would probably get federal funding and guys would brag about it.

Wait...if these loons are using the argument that any prevention of fertilization is murder, what about the women who for whatever reason are infertile?

A cell or clump of cells is not a "person". We don't go calling amoebas people do we?

[Nyoibo]

Hey now, if prevention of fertilization becomes illegal, does that mean every money shot in porn is an act of murder?

[Greenday]

Hey now, if prevention of fertilization becomes illegal, does that mean every money shot in porn is an act of murder?

Does this mean I can't pull out?

[ExRetailDrone]

Hey now, if prevention of fertilization becomes illegal, does that mean every money shot in porn is an act of murder?

Wouldn't that mean that any man masturbating would be committing murder as well?

[Nyoibo]

Wouldn't that mean that any man masturbating would be committing murder as well?

God I hope not, otherwise I'm going to be on trial for genocide.

[Jester]

More stupidity from the "Right to Life" people, who, if they really believed in truth in advertising, would call themselves the "Right to Control Other People's Lives" movement.

I know I go to George Carlin a lot, but the thing is, the man was right a lot. One thing he pointed out that most of the "Right to Life" people are in favor of the death penalty, are okay with killing abortion doctors, and generally favor war, and sending (other people's) children off to die in a foreign land. To quote George, "When they say "right to life," they're talking about THEIR right to decide which people should live or die."

I'm getting an IUD next month. If something like this happens, what're they going to do? Hold me down and rip it out? HELL NO.

Well, if you lived in a place where laws like this passed, technically speaking, your IUD would be illegal, and you would be potentially subject to fines and/or imprisonment if you continued to use it.

So now we have to try to save fetuses that are part of an ectopic pregnancy?

According to these people....yes. After all, despite the ugly medical fact that ectopic pregnancies are not viable, they are still fertilized eggs and, according to this type of legislation, "unique human lives." I don't have to make this stuff up...these people could keep comedians working and not having to write their own material for years.

So when can we get around to tabling the "Would You Just Stay The Fuck Out Of Other People's Business Already" bill? -.-

To quote George again, "Doesn't it strike you as mildly ironic that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place? "

Wait...if these loons are using the argument that any prevention of fertilization is murder, what about the women who for whatever reason are infertile?

Give them time. After all, said women would not be moving along with procreation, which is, of course, the duty of all women in the species. You don't believe me? Just ask the people pushing this legislation.

We don't go calling amoebas people do we?

Clearly you never met my last boss.

Hey now, if prevention of fertilization becomes illegal, does that mean every money shot in porn is an act of murder?

Does this mean I can't pull out?

Wouldn't that mean that any man masturbating would be committing murder as well?

What's truly frightening is that if this stuff passes, stuff like the above jokes would probably be these people's next targets. Condoms? Hell no. Vasectomies? Absolutely not. Tied tubes? Illegal. Ridiculous? Well, the stuff going on right now would have been considered ridiculous not that long ago.

In the eyes of the "Right to Life" people, the woman's role is to act as a brood mare for the State. Well, more likely for the Church, but they can't really say that yet, due to all the pesky non-Christians out there.

I know a local family that has five kids, and number six is imminent. This is their choice. But not all families can afford, financially, emotionally, or parentally, that many children. My own parents were happy after two, and when the third came along as a major surprise (my little sister is only 16 months younger than me), my father had a vasectomy to keep the count down. I have no doubt in my mind that many of these people would find his actions to be morally repugnant and irresponsible, and would, if they could, make such things illegal, as it is not "Christian."

Well, neither my father, nor my family, nor myself, is or ever has been Christian, in word or deed. And I would like to point out that, for many years, the "Christian thing to do" was to slaughter and massacre anyone who didn't believe the same way the Christians in power did. Mind you, I have nothing against Christians or their respective Churches. But the nutball Christians responsible for this ridiculousness are not representative of Christianity as a whole. So to these people I raise my voice in a mighty "Fuck you!" Get your version of the Bible out of my face and your laws off of our bodies, you hypocritical fucks.

[MadMike]

I'm against abortion myself, but some of these so-called pro-life people are bat-shit crazy. I would think that they'd be glad people are preventing unwanted pregnancies, and in turn, reducing abortions.

I'm getting an IUD next month. If something like this happens, what're they going to do? Hold me down and rip it out? HELL NO.

I guess on that same note, they'll rip me open and re-connect everything that I had snipped four years ago.

Wouldn't that mean that any man masturbating would be committing murder as well?

Actually, I guess that would be mass-murder. Which brings me to another question -- what do they call it when a man and a woman have sex, and it's not during that window where pregnancy can occur? Or where one or both participants is sterile? Or if people aren't having sex at all? That also prevents pregnancy from occurring. And even if pregnancy does occur, all the sperm except for one still die.

Some people are just plain stupid.

[Andara Bledin]

I'm against abortion myself, but some of these so-called pro-life people are bat-shit crazy. I would think that they'd be glad people are preventing unwanted pregnancies, and in turn, reducing abortions.

No, they want more kids at any cost. More kids will help keep people in poverty. More poverty leads to less education. Less education leads to more people to indoctrinate and control and use to push their agenda.

It's about power and money. Which is also why priests are supposed to be celebate - that way, when they die, the only people they have to leave their money and effects to is the church.

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[Ginger Tea]

So in time and interpretation of this fuckfest, Aunt Flo visiting could land you up for a fine?
I guess renaming tampons baby coffins wouldn't seem too far out of place.

Years ago a commedian joked that a man ejaculating and a woman menstraiting were arrested on conspiracy to commit murder.

Will they go after Nun's too, they have womb's that should be filled with babies too.

[Jester]

Which brings me to another question -- what do they call it when a man and a woman have sex, and it's not during that window where pregnancy can occur?

These people would say that the man and woman are not timing it right.

Or where one or both participants is sterile?

Bad parents!

Or if people aren't having sex at all?

Marriage.

And even if pregnancy does occur, all the sperm except for one still die.

I wouldn't doubt that some of these wackaloons wanted to go after those :evil masturbationists" as well, until someone pointed out the sheer logistical numbers of the reproductive process, and they decided to just deal with a fertiilized egg.

For now.

Some people are just plain stupid.

And some are stupider than that!

[tropicsgoddess]

I get so riled up whenever these anti-abortion group nutjobs try to force women into having babies like it's the medieval times! I like my birth control, I like being able to have the freedom of pleasure and constant worry of an unwanted pregnancy. Those people should stop trying to dictate women's reproductive organs!

[BlaqueKatt]

but it's a religious belief....and religion cannot be questioned or mocked in any manner....it's unAmerican to do so, someone may be offended.....this is what happens when religion is placed on a pedestal, and not allowed to be questioned, because someone may be offended.

[MadMike]

Marriage.

In the words of Homer Simpson, "It's funny 'cause it's true!"

[bainsidhe]

I'm still waiting to see an article of a woman forced to carry to term and suing the fetus for forcing her body to house it for 9 months against her will.