Prospective 2012 US Presidential Candidates

[protege]

They're hoping to take advantage of Obama's stagnant economy, in that people will vote for someone else instead. Misguided strategy,IMHO. They'd be better to find someone better suited for the job. Hell, I'd run for the job...but they probably wouldn't like my stance on certain things

[Talon]

You need moderates and independents. neither of which are going to vote for the lunatics the GOP is parading around as hopefuls at the moment.

Easy solution to that problem: lie.

Lie lie lie about what they said in their little echo chamber circus. Shoud they ever actually be confronted with their prior lunacy (lol fat chance of that ), whine. Show up on the Fake Noise channel and whine whine whine about their remarks being taken out of context, whine about being persecuted by teh evil librul media wanting the terrorists to win.

Problem fixed.

[Rapscallion]

So, standing operating procedure, then?

Rapscallion

[Andara Bledin]

Pretty much.

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[Skunkle]

You all forgot the guy who runs every year...sort of: Lyndon LaRouche. His followers stand on the streets here every day with signs showing Obama with a Hitler mustache.

...interesting that Lyndon has never won any of his political bids. Hmm, I wonder why? Maybe because he's batshit insane and his cultish group is a millimeter away from mirroring Scientology?

Yeah, it'll be Obama and one of the really, REALLY far-right Republicans. Problem is, the Tea Party groups are pushing "change", and the far-right types seem to be successfully selling them on the idea that the far-right IS the change they want. Will enough Tea Partiers vote for the insane far-right guys to sway the election? Tea Partiers have a good but very vague idea - it seems they want things "the way they used to be", but don't really know what, exactly, that means.

[smileyeagle1021]

and most Democrats and moderates don't want some conservative nutcase who is going to cut medicare, social security, personal freedoms, and civil rights.

something I've had to point out to my uncle in Arizona, that yes, Democrats have put a few minor restrictions on religious liberties for Christians (no prayer in schools being the one he complains about most), but compared to what the current republican candidates are proposing (or have proposed in the past) doing to absolutely destroy the religious rights of everyone who isn't Christian (or even their sect of Christianity) is appalling. That if I have to choose between someone who might cross the line being hardline on prayer in schools (it is kind of bullshit saying students can't get together to pray themselves if they choose, which I have heard of happening) and forbidding building mosques, mandatory "reorientation" camps for homosexuals, and theocratic rules that disenfranchise moderate and liberal sects of Christianity by imposing conservative Christian values on everyone, I'll take the person who errs on the side of being a little bit hardline on prayer in school.

[tropicsgoddess]

I just don't want another Republican in the Oval Office. Forget the fact we had G.W. Bush for 8 years and he fucked up the country badly, but I and all other Floridians had to deal with his brother Jeb as governor of Florida and after that...Rick Scott *shudder*. Granted yes, Rick Scott cracked down on pill mills and signed into law requiring drug tests for Welfare recipients and applicants but other than that...Florida has been going to hell in a hand basket since we had Republican Governors (thank GAWD I'm outta there now). Bachman is a nutty bigot, Rick Perry is practically a G.W. Bush clone and Sarah Palin is a moron. Doesn't look like we have much for the Democrats side for the Presidential Candiates (besides Obama for re-election). I'm hoping we have some good candidates willing to run instead of another 2004 Bush vs. Kerry presidential bid where it was...bleh with some 3 ring circus shit.

[smileyeagle1021]

I'm waiting for a Republican who isn't batshit crazy, because the dems aren't far behind them on batshit crazy. Oh, hearing the liberals scream bloody murder over drug testing for welfare, and scream bloody murder over capital punishment (which, lets face it, there is only two ways to guarantee someone never commits a crime ever again, lifetime confinement and death), and don't even get me started to the uproar of Perry's day of prayer thing... was it necessarily the right thing for Perry to do... probably not, was it worth all the upset that people made over it... definitely not. If it makes the evangelicals feel better, let them have it. It would be a little hypocritical to say we demand the right for marriage equality for gays and lesbians, and religious equality for Muslims and other religious minorities, and then turn around and say "but you can't have your little confab"

... and this lack of good choices (batshit crazy on the right or batshit crazy on the left) is why so few people vote.

[Gravekeeper]

... and this lack of good choices (batshit crazy on the right or batshit crazy on the left) is why so few people vote.

I haven't seen anyone in the same realm of batshittedness on the left as the right has at the moment. Let alone being treated as a real contender like the right is doing. Which is the problem. These lunatics are looked at as legitimate contenders for the presidency by the right.

We're not even talking far out ideas here, Bachmann has something wrong in her head. Legitimately. Perry's not much better. He's not Bush 2.0. He's less intelligent, more adversarial, more hard core right wing and doesn't have the slightest shred of intent of actually working with anyone outside of his echo chamber in government.

Bush may have been an idiot, but he was smart enough to work with the other side and keep any crazier ideas he might have had to himself. Perry isn't. Also, Bush's Texas cowboy shit was a complete act. Perry's the real deal. Perry's more like patient zero of whatever disease Bush was struggling with during his presidency. ;p

[Greenday]

I haven't seen anyone in the same realm of batshittedness on the left as the right has at the moment. Let alone being treated as a real contender like the right is doing. Which is the problem. These lunatics are looked at as legitimate contenders for the presidency by the right.

Right now, it's the moderates who are choosing who wins. There's a lot more moderates these days. On a scale of 1-10, one being liberal and 10 being conservative, Obama rates around a 2, maybe a 2.5 since he bends over backwards for the Republicans a lot. Perry, Bachmann rate somewhere around a 12-12.5. They make normal conservatives look pretty moderate. And that scares the moderates. It's also why those Democrats who are pissed Obama hasn't save the world yet are still going to vote for him because no one wants to see an insane person running the country.

[Andara Bledin]

Perry's more like patient zero of whatever disease Bush was struggling with during his presidency. ;p

That's a brilliant analogy.

Right now, it's the moderates who are choosing who wins. There's a lot more moderates these days. On a scale of 1-10, one being liberal and 10 being conservative, Obama rates around a 2, maybe a 2.5 since he bends over backwards for the Republicans a lot.

Only in the US. Compared to the rest of the world, our left starts somewhere around 4, and our moderates live around 6 or 7. And the far right is pushing 13.

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[Fire_on_High]

David Duke's a racist nutter. We Pubbies wish he'd foad.

None of the Pubbie candidates are seeming real great this round, but I've tentatively decided who I'll be voting for if they run. Not going to post it, frankly I fear retaliation on another forum if someone were to google my username and find me.

[Sleepwalker]

Mmm, yes, drug testing for Welfare recipients. Would you like to know whose wealth is largely based on the major drug testing company in Florida?

I'll give you a hint- it starts with 'The'and ends with 'Wife Of Rick Scott, Who Received Her Shares In The Company From Her Husband, Rick Scott, After The ^Last Lawsuit Scandal Involving Rick Scott Funneling State Money To Them'.

Wow, a little winded now. Must be some sort of foreign name.

[Fire_on_High]

If someone has enough money to buy pot, they don't need public assistance. REGARDLESS of who owns the testing company.

[Andara Bledin]

If someone has enough money to buy pot, they don't need public assistance. REGARDLESS of who owns the testing company.

If they had the money to pay for the tests, they likely wouldn't be needing the assistance so much.

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