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  • #16
    Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
    Maybe she is afraid drinking buddies will marry for green cards.
    Wouldn't that make drinking gay though?

    I love how she's in the "being gay is a lifestyle!" camp. -.- Completely delusional.

    And no offence to you folks overseas, but you have some real fucked up people in Congress.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rapscallion View Post
      If memory serves, isn't that what her husband did?

      Rapscallion
      Yep its called "reparative therapy" and its used to try and turn gay people straight. It's not medically accepted and there is no evidence it works at all.

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      • #18
        I am honestly surprised the girls next question wasn't along the lines of
        "Why is the law the way it is? Why is it intrinsicly unfair?"

        or better yet

        "Are you fucking high, maam? "

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        • #19
          I spent ten years trying desperatly to be straight and all it did was hurt me and my relationships and people I cared about.

          If your not straight no amount of wishing in the world can make you so.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by jackfaire View Post

            If your not straight no amount of wishing in the world can make you so.
            No, but praying to a vindictive God who is so sick and twisted that He intentionally makes people gay just so He will have someone to hate will make you straight, just ask a good Christian.
            I will never forgive Christianity for the years I spent in the living hell of their cult trying to make myself straight, the only reason I'm alive today is because if I had killed myself I would have died with God still hating me (which I have no doubt He still does to this day, but a lot of the people I have thought were kind and good will be going to Hell anyway, so being hated by the scumbag God probably isn't that bad of a thing).
            "I'm Gar and I'm proud" -slytovhand

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            • #21
              Originally posted by smileyeagle1021 View Post
              No, but praying to a vindictive God who is so sick and twisted that He intentionally makes people gay just so He will have someone to hate will make you straight, just ask a good Christian.
              I will never forgive Christianity for the years I spent in the living hell of their cult trying to make myself straight, the only reason I'm alive today is because if I had killed myself I would have died with God still hating me (which I have no doubt He still does to this day, but a lot of the people I have thought were kind and good will be going to Hell anyway, so being hated by the scumbag God probably isn't that bad of a thing).
              I can't apologize to you on behalf of Christians Smiley, but let me say this:

              I am a Christian myself and the whole "hatred of gays" issue is something that I've struggled with.

              But the bottom line for me is this: My religious beliefs actually teach me not to hate ANYONE.

              Jesus' ultimate command to his disciples was this: "Love one another"

              Just because you don't like what someone is doing does NOT mean you have to hate their guts and be abusive to them.

              It seems like so many Christians have made the connection of:

              People doing things that God doesn't approve of = people I should hate and not associate with.

              I say, SCREW THAT.

              I adamantly REFUSE to hate gay people. One of my coworkers is gay and I really enjoy working with her. I respect the hell out of her and I would never judge her or talk bad about her or doing anything negative towards her because of her sexual orientation.

              That's not what my Bible says.

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              • #22
                I can tell you this...money is a huge part of it. Allowing it would mean having to shell out more, for more people.

                I don't think that makes it right at all, but some are hiding naked greed behind religion.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Fire_on_High View Post
                  I don't think that makes it right at all, but some are hiding naked greed behind religion.
                  DING! That and personal prejudices.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Fire_on_High View Post
                    I can tell you this...money is a huge part of it. Allowing it would mean having to shell out more, for more people.

                    I don't think that makes it right at all, but some are hiding naked greed behind religion.
                    I don't think that covers it. Surely gay people are a small enough portion of the population that the cost would be insignificant. (So far as federal government costs, at least, I've read that DOMA actually means less revenue.) Surely, if greed were the only motive, they would focus on other areas where the same effort could produce more savings...
                    "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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                    • #25
                      I like the part where she talks about the average federal bureaucrat making $120,000 a year. I'm one of those bureaucrats...I sure as hell would love to make that kind of money! I don't even think the execs make that much. She also forgot to mention that those bureaucrats happen to live in one of the most expensive areas of the country, but whatever.

                      I couldn't stand how all those people clapped after she would say something completely ignorant. "That's not the law of the land?" Then WTF, you as president are supposed to change that! I had to stop after she started talking about prayer in schools. I just couldn't do it.

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                      • #26
                        I still say Sarah Palin is worse, because as far as I know, Bachmann doesn't have loud, obnoxious, equally bigoted adult children going around causing trouble at bars.

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                        • #27
                          Whichever is more likely to be taken seriously is worse.
                          "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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                          • #28
                            I'm not sure. Bachmann knows a tiny bit more about working politics than palin, I think. But Bachmann is crazy. Palin is just uneducated and dense.

                            Please pardon my bringing in religion, but the God I believe in doesn't hate you, Smiley. I believe god loves us ALL, and I do NOT believe being gay - being BORN gay, or bi, or trans, or whatever, is a sin or is wrong. You ever want to see a church in which every member thinks you're loved, and should be loved, for exactly what you are, you come up to Seattle and I'll take you to three or four of 'em. And no, not to convert you - they won't even care that you're not Christian - just to show you some Christians who follow God as He is. I can even introduce you to CATHOLICS who believe that!! God made you exactly as you are, and He loves you exactly as you are, and there is no burning, seething hatred under that. That burning hatred is entirely in the eyes of assholes who use God as a big, bad front for their own fucked-up insecurities and power trips.

                            Love your comment, Greenday.

                            Reparative therapy AKA ex-gay treatment isn't just a farce; it's an abomination. It should be condemned as psychological torture. Short answer: it works - sort of. Long answer: it can, if done agressively enough, make a person aversive to any of their natural, born sexual instinct. It cannot, however, make a person straight. The poster children for this stuff get married, and go through the motions (Step one: insert peg into hole. Step two: hump up and down. Step three: babies!!) but their heart isn't in it; the only reason they even try is because they've been convinced that they're doing the right thing. It'll never FEEL right, but everyone keeps telling them it is, so... Essentially, it involves associating homosexual arousal with negative reactions: electric shocks, chemically-induced vomiting, etc. It's sick, twisted shit, and I'm pretty sure some if not many of those performing these jobs have some sort of dominant control, torture and/or humiliation fetishes. This shit should be outlawed, plain and simple.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Rageaholic View Post
                              Yeah I've heard that one before. It still doesn't address what's so harmful about two people of the same sex getting married.

                              At this point, I'd rather someone like Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich get in than some idiot like Bachmann.
                              Ugh..Herman Cain would've been okay if he didn't drop out. Bachmann is nutty and Newt Gingrich is just a hypocritical jackass. I see nothing wrong with allowing gays to get married at all. Bachmann wants gays to go through those sham lavender marriages they did back in the day!
                              There are no stupid questions, just stupid people...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by smileyeagle1021 View Post
                                I will never forgive Christianity for the years I spent in the living hell of their cult trying to make myself straight, the only reason I'm alive today is because if I had killed myself I would have died with God still hating me (which I have no doubt He still does to this day, but a lot of the people I have thought were kind and good will be going to Hell anyway, so being hated by the scumbag God probably isn't that bad of a thing).
                                Look at it this way: Their God doesn't exist. He's an ignorant construct built to justify their own assholishness using a handful of badly translated out of context scripture. He doesn't hate you because he's make believe and those that worship him are spiteful children playing pretend.

                                Zeus has more credible evidence for his existence than Republican God and Zeus was the God of the Greeks. So you know he was all good with it. -.-

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