Lamar Smith With Another SOPA like Bill

[tropicsgoddess]

The author of SOPA now is introducing a bill called Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 or H.R. 1981. In short this bill will impose harsher sentences on those who distribute, purchase and finance the sale of child pornography. But what's bad about this bill is that it would require ISPs to record everything you do without warning or cause on the internet and upon government request to get ALL your info. Not just screen names but things like your full name, where you live, your credit card info and bank account info. This bill just plain screams big brother to me. I get that they want to have a tougher stance on child porn and such but this is downright unconstitutional and ridiculous!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect...nographers_Act

[Salted Grump]

It also screams 'Identity theft goldmine' Because, as we all know, no matter how good your security is, the only way to keep your Shit secure is to keep it OFFLINE.

Recording everything is a great way to have practically everyone that uses an ISP covered by that law bent over the barrel in a variety of horrible ways.

[powerboy]

If it passes, I would hope that absolutely no one can hack into their servers and get the peoples info. But what would happen, if I click on a link for say a wrestling website. And it takes it to a child porn site instead?

(About 6 years ago, I once clicked on a Google image link for a beautiful nature wallpaper and it ended up taking me to a child porn site.)

[Rageaholic]

Okay, it's nowhere near as bad as SOPA, but it still screams "Big Brother". I love the "please think of the child angle" he took this time. Too bad it still doesn't justify blatant privacy abuses. Bank info? Why would they even need that?

From what I read about this douchebag, it sounds like he proposed a series of other laws to restrict peoples freedom and or give the feds more power to abuse. Fuck him.

[mikoyan29]

So another one of those cut all regulations on Big Business but regulate the hell out of individuals folks?

[Salted Grump]

Well, the way its written, with the proviso that every ISP Must, with no exceptions record every scrap of personal ifnormation on every customer for at minimum one year would mean that every company that relies on online sales should be up in arms, screaming bloody murder due to security risks.

I mean, amazon and E-bay already have problems with CC fraud and ID Theft claims. That law goes through and what profits they make will dry up faster than a puddle of piss in the Sahara due to the resultant spike in claims.

[Seifer]

This may sound strange, but I'm worried about the idea that the government is supposed to somehow reach a consensus on what constitutes child pornography. Obviously any videos or photos of a young child being forced into a sexual act will count, but there's also a grey area. I remember hearing a case about a man being sentenced to jail time for owning/reading Japanese Lolita comics. Oh, and of course that little court case concerning Kathryn Myers of Akron, Ohio, where two women had to fight in court over the fact that they took silly pictures with their children. (The young girls were shirtless in a few pictures, but nothing sexual was going on. I thought it was considered "cute" for parents to take pictures of their kids in the bathtub and whatnot...?) There's always going to be someone out there who thinks taking a photo of a topless child is somehow "pornographic", even if it's simply a parent taking a picture of their child acting silly.

I can say right now that there is a lot of stuff on the internet that is straddling a line between decent and indecent, and I don't like the idea of the government bumbling around and trying to draw the line.

[fireheart17]

This may sound strange, but I'm worried about the idea that the government is supposed to somehow reach a consensus on what constitutes child pornography.

Down here, tiny tits pornography seems to apparently equal child porn. (it's banned)

Hentai in general is somewhat disturbing no offence though

[protege]

So another one of those cut all regulations on Big Business but regulate the hell out of individuals folks?

Identity theft paradise aside, I think a better comparison would be of gun control. Think about it, of the millions (billions?) of people who currently surf the net, only a tiny percentage are sick assholes who enjoy kiddie porn. Just like the millions of people (at least in the US) who own firearms...yet only a small percentage go around killing people and/or knocking over convenience stores. As much as I think the idea of kiddie porn is fucked up, I can't help but think this is another attempt to take away the freedom of many, because of the actions of a few assholes.

Also, we could come up with the strictest laws on the planet. But, why do that when...

1. We don't enforce the laws we already have, and
2. Criminals aren't going to obey them anyway.

That is, if this shit passes, the kiddie porn vendors will just find another way around the laws. Look at all the weapons bans we supposedly have here. Why is it that assault rifles are banned...yet they're on the streets in cities such as DC and LA? Same with kiddie porn--it's illegal, yet survives. All the while, the people who obey the laws, are getting shafted.