GOP vs. Birth Control Pill

[Lady_Foxfire]

To all of the people who say "I don't want to pay for women to have sex!" (I'm looking at you, Limbaugh), my response is that what you're really paying for is for them to be safe while having the sex they were going to be having anyway.

[blas87]

I wonder how many of those idiot talking heads waited until they were married to have sex, and only, and I mean ONLY, had sex in the hopes of having a baby, and did not have sex again until they wanted another child, and another, and another.

I mean, after all, a menstrual period is considered an abortion nowadays, isn't it?

[Greenday]

my response is that what you're really paying for is for them to be safe while having the sex they were going to be having anyway.

To which they could just as easily respond, "That doesn't make any sense as to why we should pay for it anyway. That's their problem, not ours. If they can't afford the consequences, they shouldn't be doing it and we should pay for their recklessness."

[Duelist925]

To which they could just as easily respond, "That doesn't make any sense as to why we should pay for it anyway. That's their problem, not ours. If they can't afford the consequences, they shouldn't be doing it and we should pay for their recklessness."

The options are pretty much "pay for prevention, which is relatively cheap" or "Pay for welfare to take care of the child that wasn't prevented which is MUCH more expensive"

So, either pay for an ounce of prevention, or pay for several tons of care.

[Greenday]

The options are pretty much "pay for prevention, which is relatively cheap" or "Pay for welfare to take care of the child that wasn't prevented which is MUCH more expensive"

So, either pay for an ounce of prevention, or pay for several tons of care.

Or option C "neither".

[Duelist925]

Or option C "neither".

Ah, yes, the "Fuck'em, its not like a bunch of people who can't afford food, clothing, or basic care of any sort will drag society down" option.

[Greenday]

Ah, yes, the "Fuck'em, its not like a bunch of people who can't afford food, clothing, or basic care of any sort will drag society down" option.

Usually it's more about not having to pay for what should be a personal responsibility. And realistically, if you can't afford birth control or any protection, you shouldn't be having sex because you won't be able to afford the eventual baby.

[Lachrymose]

Realistically, that will never, ever happen.

[Greenday]

Realistically, that will never, ever happen.

Nope, which is why we are stuck going with the less efficient and much more costly version of paying for their spawn.

[Duelist925]

Nope, which is why we are stuck going with the less efficient and much more costly version of paying for their spawn.

Except were not stuck with that. If we pay for prevention, which is cheaper, we generally dont have to pay for the spawn.

[Andara Bledin]

Usually it's more about not having to pay for what should be a personal responsibility. And realistically, if you can't afford birth control or any protection, you shouldn't be having sex because you won't be able to afford the eventual baby.

Ah, yes, the "Fuck em, I got mine" attitude.

Enough of that and you end up with a revolution, 'cause the ones that got theirs are massively outnumbered by the ones that don't.

^-.-^

[Nekojin]

Ah, yes, the "Fuck em, I got mine" attitude.

Enough of that and you end up with a revolution, 'cause the ones that got theirs are massively outnumbered by the ones that don't.

... and eventually end up beheaded, or on a pyre, or some other gruesome way to "get theirs" in a way that they don't want...

[Seifer]

Usually it's more about not having to pay for what should be a personal responsibility. And realistically, if you can't afford birth control or any protection, you shouldn't be having sex because you won't be able to afford the eventual baby.

Luckily for men, condoms are given away for free by several different establishments. I don't see anyone passing out free BC pills/contraceptives on the corner.

If BC was more cost effective and didn't cost an arm and a leg (which, by the way, it only costs a fortune because the companies know they can charge whatever the fuck they want and make tons of profit), then women wouldn't be so desperate for it to be covered by health insurance. If women in the lower economic areas have to choose between a week's worth of food or a month's supply of birth control, they're most likely going to pass up the BC. Then, since they're human and have human urges, they might still continue having sex and take a chance.

Is it a bad idea to have sex without BC? Hell yes. Does it happen anyway? Unfortunately, yes. Then, if a child does come out of it, society has to worry about it. Remember, a child can grow into a desperate (and stupid) adult who thinks robbing the liquor store is a great way to get extra money.

While condoms are a great preventative for pregnancy, it's nice to have a backup. Unfortunately, the backup is fucking expensive and no one wants to pay for it. Personally, I'd rather pay a few extra dollars a month toward BC for the masses than pay to take care of children who are poor and unwanted.

[bara]

If BC was more cost effective and didn't cost an arm and a leg (which, by the way, it only costs a fortune because the companies know they can charge whatever the fuck they want and make tons of profit), then women wouldn't be so desperate for it to be covered by health insurance.

And interestingly, the same people who are adamant about not covering BC with insurance are of the same political affiliation as those who are constantly pandering to the big companies that produce the medicine.

[crashhelmet]

And interestingly, the same people who are adamant about not covering BC with insurance are of the same political affiliation as those who are constantly pandering to the big companies that produce the medicine.

That's because they're also pandering to the big companies that provide insurance.

Let BigPharma sell it for $200 and let BigProvider deny coverage. You've got 2 lobbyists making money instead of just 1.