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  • #16
    I think the issue is that it is a political issue - and sometimes politics doesn't always reflect personal feelings.

    Yes - just recently our PM made that apology that our previous PM was unwilling to make, and it made him (the prior) look like a complete tool!

    Granted, in Australia, things are slightly different because there are people well and truly alive who experienced the bad crap that was apologised for. (I think the same is true for Canada??)

    I don't think we can just ignore the past and hope no-one bothers to remember it... isn't that what the term 'humanity' is partly about?? From what I was hearing from the Aborginals of this land, it was about 'acknowledgement' more than anything else.

    Thus, the governments have a bit of a place in apologising.

    Slyt
    ZOE: Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?

    SHEPHERD BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, Somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

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    • #17
      You know what appologies are worth? Well crap in one hand and appologize in the other and see which one fills up first. IMO actions speak more of the person than words. My great-great grandparents owned slaves and I feel no one ounce of guilt and I will never appoligize for I did nothing wrong. Look at it this way all of us and I do mean all of us have someone in the their past that has owned slaves and has been a slave therefore we're all equally guilty and equally victimized, some choose to wallow in their guilt and victimization as some sort of a badge of honor and in reality it's all bullshit.
      If you treat other folks as you want to be treated then you have nothing to feel guilty about.
      Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
        ...you want to be treated then you have nothing to feel guilty about.
        I really don't like that overly simplistic view.
        Real kindness means taking the other person's priorities into consideration rather than just imagining yourself in their place.

        I have a high pain threshold but severe social phobia. I would much prefer a minor physical impact over any form of public socializing.
        I doubt others would feel the same.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Flyndaran View Post
          I really don't like that overly simplistic view.
          Real kindness means taking the other person's priorities into consideration rather than just imagining yourself in their place.

          I have a high pain threshold but severe social phobia. I would much prefer a minor physical impact over any form of public socializing.
          I doubt others would feel the same.
          So we're going from offering BS appoligies to being kind? Those are two entirely different things. The Golden Rule is simple and it was meant to be simple that way the ignorant and stupid can comprehend. If you think about it the Golden Rule does take the other person's feelings into consideration, if you don't want your feelings disregarded then don't disregard others.
          Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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