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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rapscallion View Post
    I would imagine that would be because most births are to mothers under 35? (I'm guessing at this and have no statistics to back me up, but I think the concept is right).

    Rapscallion

    Right, the amount of births is a sliding scale as the age of the mother increases so in terms of births there's more babies with Down's born to mothers under 35 but a higher percentage of those above.

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    • #17
      Oh lordy....and her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. I know this makes them a more "real" family or whatever, but the irony of that happening after she preaches all about values and whatnot is just too delicious.

      I know it's off-limits to talk about the kids, but this has a lot to do with Palin's parenting. She probably didn't let her daughter use birth control (since she's SO against it) so she went and got pregnant. Whoops!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Giggle Goose View Post
        I know it's off-limits to talk about the kids, but this has a lot to do with Palin's parenting. She probably didn't let her daughter use birth control (since she's SO against it) so she went and got pregnant. Whoops!
        I bet she didn't even teach her kid about sex at all, not just birth control.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Greenday View Post
          I bet she didn't even teach her kid about sex at all, not just birth control.
          Very likely not - Dominionists are staunchly against women having any sort of control over their own bodies at all, hence Palin's extremist stance against reproductive rights. (That, and they believe in the numbers game - outbreeding the "enemy" and making more little "warriors" for God)
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          • #20
            Or maybe Palin's daughter did what 90% of teenagers do and rebelled against her parents and went and did all the things she's not supposed to do. Parents can't be held infinitely responsible for their kids actions, especially if the girl is seventeen years old.

            The fact that her daughter is a pregnant teenager does not mean that Palin is a bad mother. She might be a bad mom, but that fact alone does not prove it.

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            • #21
              Palin opposes birth control AND sex education. I'm guessing (although I don't know) that she probably prescribes to a 'women do what men tell them to do' policy on relationships, and has preached that to her children. So when boyfriend did what all teenaged males do and started pressuring daughter to have sex, she 1) didn't have a farkin' clue how reproduction works and 2) didn't want to say 'NO'.

              It's just a theory, I have a lot of them.

              The fact that the daughter is pregnant doesn't make Palin a bad mom. The fact that Palin wants to keep teenagers in the dark regarding the facts of sex and reproduction...well...yeah. Despite the fact that since President Bush has been pushing this "abstinence only" sex ed bullshit, teenage pregnancies have skyrocketed. The fact that Palin has a living example of how "abstinence only" sex education doesn't work in her very family, to me, makes her lose any credibility she might have had as a politician.

              This woman scares the living hell out of me. I used to think, "Oh, well, if McCain gets elected, at least it'll be better than Bush". Now I am wholly committed to do everything I can to make sure this nutjob doesn't get into the Chain of Command. *shudder*

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              • #22
                There is an argument to be made that if Palin had educated her daughter about birth control, then this may not have happened.

                However, I also remember what it was like to be 17. People tend to be very short-sighted and impetuous at that age, regardless of what kind of liberal education or parenting they have had. I don't judge. One stupid decision and it could have been me.

                Like I said, it would be nice if this campaign could focus on the actual issues that will affect millions of Americans and the world.

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                • #23
                  I was talking with my mom about this (she didn't know about Dominionism at all!) and she says that Joe Biden will need to tread carefully in the debates because of Palin's gender and McCain knows this (that's why he chose her). Is that true? Maybe.

                  I think Biden will hand Palin's ass to her anyway. Does McCain have any arguments left (he's obviously lost the 'experience' one)?
                  "Any state, any entity, any ideology which fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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                  • #24
                    When I was in high school, we had thorough sex education. We saw the movies, we learned about STDs, condoms, etc. I still knew of girls who got pregnant. Heck, we had a day care for students to leave their kids at so they could go to class. My area in my town is the "affluent" part of the county I live in. High income. 2 working parents. Luxury cars & luxury homes. But girls are still getting pregnant ... funny that.

                    Obama has said that legislating abortion and thinking about it is "above his pay grade". WTF does that mean anyways?

                    There are some people who do not believe in abortion and who do believe in abortion. We cannot say who is right and who is wrong. (For the record on me? I'm against both the death penalty and abortion, so there. I'm also a non-practicing Catholic).
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                    • #25
                      My high school had zero sex ed. What passed for it in "Health class" in junior high was pathetic; seemed like just enough to say they were doing it, but not enough so kids actually learned anything useful. My mom wasn't afraid to let me read her anatomy textbook to fill in the gaps...but back then there weren't all these "protect the chiiildrreeeen" groups, or at least they were still relatively quiet.
                      Originally posted by IDrinkaRum View Post
                      Obama has said that legislating abortion and thinking about it is "above his pay grade". WTF does that mean anyways?
                      ???? I don't get that either. Source?
                      "Any state, any entity, any ideology which fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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                      • #26
                        Dreamstalker - Found this on YouTube

                        Above my pay grade?

                        Pelosi, a Catholic, doesn't reveal much on her party's candidate's words

                        Above pay grade comment not really about abortion but about when babies are considered human - at conception or at birth or something like that?
                        Oh Holy Trinity, the Goddess Caffeine'Na, the Great Cowthulhu, & The Doctor, Who Art in Tardis, give me strength. Moo. Moo. Java. Timey Wimey

                        Avatar says: DAVID TENNANT More Evidence God is a Woman

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                        • #27
                          Apparently, Palin's speech resulted in nearly 10 million dollars in donations within 24 hours to the Obama campaign.

                          *wonders how the Republicans are going to explain that one*
                          Last edited by Dreamstalker; 09-05-2008, 05:13 PM.
                          "Any state, any entity, any ideology which fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Dreamstalker View Post
                            Apparently, Palin's speech resulted in nearly 10 million dollars in donations within 24 hours to the Obama campaign.
                            Do you have a source?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                              Do you have a source?
                              I'll provide the source, and I didn't even supply the story.

                              I did the unimaginable: I typed palin's speech results in nearly 10 millions dollars in donations within 24 hours to the obama campaign, and the very first result is entitled Daily Kos: Thank you Sarah Palin, for the $10 million donation.

                              And, funny thing, it seems to talk about just that. Strange. Whoda thunk it?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Dreamstalker View Post
                                Apparently, Palin's speech resulted in nearly 10 million dollars in donations within 24 hours to the Obama campaign.

                                *wonders how the Republicans are going to explain that one*
                                I can explain it. John McCain is far enough towards the middle to make moderate Democrats somewhat comfortable. Like, "Well, if our guy doesn't win, that's okay, because either way, it's an improvement!" I felt that way. I don't agree with all of his policies, but I certainly respect McCain as a politician and leader.

                                Palin? As ridiculously far right as you can get. So congrats to McCain on securing the batshitcrazy ultra-Christian-conservative vote, at the expense of rallying people against the VP choice.

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