Romney Alienates Half the Country in One Go

[MadMike]

I think that Romney's a total dick.

That's pretty much my assessment as well. The more I hear about him, the less I like. I wasn't crazy about any of the republican candidates to begin with, but I thought he was the least crazy of the bunch, and I was somewhat relieved when Santorum and Gingrich dropped out of the race. Now I'm not so sure he's any better than the rest of them.

They have napalmed the bridge, salted the earth around where the bridge was, nuked it from orbit just to be safe, and then brought in the tanks to bombard it for another year or so.

You forgot the part about them coming back and pissing on the ashes.

[Hyena Dandy]

Seriously I have no idea why anybody but a white middle aged male who is wealthy would now vote Republican.

AFter that comment?

I think that that's more the point. That he was addresinga group of white, rich, middle aged men. So he talked about things that they would think.

[Gravekeeper]

So he talked about things that they would think.

I don't think so, frankly. He was relaxed, candid, cracking jokes and talking specifics in this video. In total paradox to his normal campaign self which is hopelessly artifical, double talking, pandering disaster that avoids specifics at all costs.

This is most definately the real Romney here and makes perfect sense in the scheme of things given his total inability to relate to anyone outside of his rich white bubble. I would not say he hates poor people or anything. Hate isn't the word and its too strong a word for it.

The word you're looking for is disdain. Its not that he's actively trying to work against poor people, its that he quite sincerely doesn't care about them because he quite sincerely doesn't understand what their problem is and why they won't just let him be president because he's entitled to it in his mind.

[AdminAssistant]

He also sees the President as the CEO of America; he's stated that the President should get financial "incentives" like a CEO would. That's truly frightening.

[lordlundar]

He also sees the President as the CEO of America; he's stated that the President should get financial "incentives" like a CEO would. That's truly frightening.

Which is very indicative that he intends to run the country like how he worked at Bain Capital. In other words, get in with the premise of helping out the company, gut it and cause it to be in worse shape than before while simultaneously grabbing anything that isn't nailed down (and even stuff that is. And running out the door before anyone realizes it.

[mikoyan29]

Everything I've read about his dad is that his dad is someone to be admired. His dad actually fostered a company and didn't try to squeeze every penny out of it. He left it in better shape than when he started it. The same could be said for his state.

I love how they call Romney a native son here. He abandoned his state as soon as he could. And when that wasn't enough, he tried to take a leak on it when it was down. When he basically told GM and Chrysler to fuck off and die, he told the companies that made him what he is today to go fuck off and die.

[HYHYBT]

Ah, but he tried to take credit for bailing them out when it worked. Surely that counts for something?

[mikoyan29]

Ah, but he tried to take credit for bailing them out when it worked. Surely that counts for something?

You know, I would have been okay with him telling the auto companies to FOAD if he had told the banks the same thing. But somehow, bailing the banks was better for the economy than bailing out the auto industry. If one didn't deserve to be bailed out, it was the banks since they caused the mess in the first place but I understand why it was done. Now, alot of people will say that GM put themselves in the mess they were in, but with the credit crunch, it was going to be hard for them to bail themselves out. Chrysler's problems were different.

And I think that we could have weathered Chrysler going under...but not both companies.

[Skunkle]

Usually, I agree completely with you, Hyena Dandy, but here I have to disagree. He's commented at a NASCAR event that he has lots of friends in NASCAR...who are team owners. He's made off-the-cuff jokes about how many elevators he'll need to store his car collection. He's commented that his wife drives a couple of Cadillacs, and that these exist at a couple of his houses. And he's said he's "not concerned about the very poor" because "there's a safety net there," on which I call BS since he adds he's concerned about the "90 to 95 percent of America who are struggling," which apparently somehow doesn't include the huge numbers who are genuinely very poor. Oh, and then there's his comment that middle-income people are in the $200-250,000 range.

My opinion of the man is that he was born wealthy, he grew up wealthy, everyone he knew was wealthy, all his close associates are wealthy... That's all he knows intimately. He talks to everyone as though he's addressing the people with whom he's used to being associated: rich people. He talks as though he means what was said: that the only people to whom his comments will matter re: their voting opinions are the wealthy ones he knows best.

...but yes, I agree that he still has a chance. I think there's an unfortunately notable number of people out there who will vote for him despite not being his demographic, and despite his comments, for what I think are stupid reasons. I think some of this group don't like Obama because he's black, some don't think he fulfilled his promises (or fulfilled ALL of them - how DARE he not do absolutely everything he said he'd be working on after only four years!!), some just cannot bear to vote for a non-Republican simply because they've always voted Republican. And countless other reasons exist. But there exists a group who will vote for Romney (almost) no matter what.

[AdminAssistant]

Also, some people would rather vote themselves into poverty than risk one person getting a "handout" that they didn't "deserve."

And a lot of these same people would be on the dole if it weren't for farm subsidies, which I find hilarious.

[Mytical]

According to the latest polls he is closing on Obama. I am no Obama fan, but I realize he has been a bit handicapped here. He inherited a house that was a hovel with leaking roofs, dry rotted basements, and the supports falling down around him. Not only that..a home owners association that fought everything he tried to do to fix the house (Repubs basically wouldn't work with him on ANYTHING). People expected him to have turned it into a mansion by now. I don't think he has done as much as he COULD have, however.

I definitely am not a Mitt fan though. Right now, if they put bobo the chimp up against the two, I'd be wearing a Bobo for president pin (Lex Luthor/Dr Doom 2012!!!!). Since voting anything but D or R is throwing away a vote though, I guess between the two I'd vote for Obama and hope he can get a majority Dem group in to get something done.

[daleduke17]

Since voting anything but D or R is throwing away a vote

That is incorrect.

[Andara Bledin]

According to the latest polls he is closing on Obama.

No, he's not.

According to the latest poll data over on FiveThirtyEight, Obama's odds of winning has climbed by 10% in just the last two weeks. If you care about the Presidential election and statistics, then FTE is a blog that should be in your bookmarks.

^-.-^

[AdminAssistant]

I'll be interested to see what happens after tonight. Say what you want, but Obama is a gifted speaker and good at improvising and connecting to his audience. Mitt always seems stiff, uncomfortable, and scripted.

[Mytical]

That is incorrect.

Show me any time in the last 50 years..in which a single vote would have changed who made president, especially when that somebody was not D or R.

In fact, I will do that for us. The closest ANY not D or R candidate come was Perot in 1992. A whole 20 million votes behind the LOSER of the two main candidates. http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/

In most races (besides Perot) we are talking a couple hundred thousand for any non D or Non R..vs MILLIONS for D or R.