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  • Anyone not care about the election?

    I am wondering how many people at this point don't care about the election. To me it doesn't matter who we vote for because in some way were getting fucked.

    I see it like this. one candidate intends to buy us a nice meal before fucking us in the ass violently. And the other guy wants to just fuck us regular style but without protection and has no intentions on speaking again. the election results is really just an STD test few months after the fucking. Just need to find out did we get gonorrhea or chlamydia.


    The attack ads piss me off to no end. And I am sick of random fucking people calling me telling me I need to vote X because Y hates babies. and Y is saying his comments was hating babies suffer but X wants all old people dead.

    Can't we all just agree the two party system is so massive fucked and politicians are paid to tell you want you want to hear but do whatever they see fit

  • #2
    I will agree that the two party system is completely fucked--I find it incredibly aggravating that a third party has near no chance right now, to the point where Jill Stein sat outside the latest debates in protest of third party candidates being excluded from them.

    However, I hate it when people say we're fucked either way. Its...just not true.

    Is either side perfect? Far from it. But one side is quickly becoming a fucking joke, not EVEN a ghost, of itself, and rapidly approaching the levels of utter insane fuckery usually reserved for onion articles, refusing to share pretty much ANY details of their "plans".

    The other has, at the very least, been making headway of repairing the Bush damage, and has put the points of their plans out in the open.

    One side is known for lieing--hell, has a running counter of lies per debate.

    The other, while yes being a politican and stretching and skewing the truth, has been caught out at telling a bare handful of lies at most.

    One side has opposed every venture the other side has made, flat out saying their number one goal was to make sure Obama was a one term president, blocking several bills that could have helped boost the economy, and pretty much acting as a rabidly partisian force.

    Speaking of, they are also rabidly against almost every socially progressive issue, wether it be lgbt rights, womens rights, etc.

    The other side, while hardly as liberal as I'd like, is at the very least working to forward these issues.


    Both sides might fuck us--but while one will screw us over in every way possible, the other, at least, will wine, dine, and be a gentle lover.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Duelist925 View Post
      However, I hate it when people say we're fucked either way. Its...just not true.
      This. So much this.

      I'm really tired of people trying to claim that both sides are the same.

      Sure, both sides are likely to fuck us; that's almost the definition of what political machines do.

      But as Duelist noted, while the one side is very much "fuck you, we've got ours," the other isn't quite so ready to turn the entire country into an oligarchy.

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      • #4
        Even if there were no other reasons for me to favor one side over the other (and there are several), there's plainly a difference in the type of person each presidential candidate would appoint to the Supreme Court, which almost certainly will have at least a couple vacancies. As I can think of only one fairly recent case where I preferred the view of the most conservative justices (eminent domain for commercial use) and definitely don't on some things likely to come up in the next few years... the presidency matters for that, if nothing else. And there *is* plenty else.

        Locally, I also care very much about at least one proposed amendment on the state ballot. There are probably no more than five people in Congress I *wouldn't* rather have as a representative than mine, but he's running unopposed, so my views there don't count.
        "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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        • #5
          I saw a post on Romney's "page" on facebook that could totally bite him in the ass. I can't wait for this thing to be over with, I'm sick of ads and my aunt complaing about body language of Obama and Biden vs actually showing something of substance.

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          • #6
            The republicans blocked bills that would have helped the now sick and dying first responders to 9/11, real american heroes with lung cancer due to inhalation of chemicals helping to save people's lives are now dying literally and financially while the republicans filibustered.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxhoUSEf2EE
            Last edited by gremcint; 10-20-2012, 02:12 AM.

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            • #7
              Just saw the most hilarious poster " Ron Jeremy for president: Your gonna get screwed anyway might as well be screwed by a professional" ... "2012 HE'S A LONG SHOT"


              agreed to just wanting it over already, I really think most people have made their minds up one way or the other. and they just dragging out the inevitable

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              • #8
                I'm going to be in California that week, so I got an absentee ballot and already voted. so I definately don't care now.

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                • #9
                  Neither side is perfect, but I at least get the impression Obama gives a shit and is trying to do what he thinks is right. All I get from Romney is a complete oil smear of a man who will say and do literally ANYTHING to get power. Even if he has to change his positions every 24 hours.

                  Obama might be "Sorry baby, I accidently stuck it in your butt" but Romney is "Bite on this" as he stuffs a piece of rawhide in your mouth while you struggle to free yourself from the sawhorse you're bent over in his basement.

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                  • #10
                    While I do wish they would do some massive reforms of how social programs work, at least the Democrats are trying to dig us out of this hole that 8 years of Bush put us in.
                    Republicans seem to enjoy going to war with anyone and everyone.
                    Iraq and Afghanistan are just today's version of Vietnam. Wars with the sole purpose of being fought, but never being won.

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                    • #11
                      As a chronically ill lesbian yes, this election matters to me very much, both on a state and federal level.

                      The best medication I could possibly be on for my conditions is on the ballot to be legalized and taxed this year.

                      The right to marry the person I love is also on the ballot to be legalized this year.

                      Those aside, as nothing more than just a female human being, I cannot imagine every being twisted or demented enough to vote for Romney. He wants to take my rights away, not only as a gay person but even just as a woman. He wants to tax the hell out of me, eliminate my right to a fair and equal wage, and increase how much I have to spend on health insurance, while at the same time relegating me to a second-class 'barely human' citizen because the only kinds of families that matter are the kind he personally approves of.

                      Yeah, I think it's pretty clear who and what I'm voting for, and I am extremely vested in the outcome of this election.

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                      • #12
                        Color me twisted and demented then, because I'm going to vote for Romney, in the hopes a businessman can fix our screwed up economy.

                        Also, when you take the time to do so, welcome to his level...dehumanizing the other side for disagreeing and all.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LewisLegion View Post
                          Those aside, as nothing more than just a female human being, I cannot imagine every being twisted or demented enough to vote for Romney. He wants to take my rights away, not only as a gay person but even just as a woman. He wants to tax the hell out of me, eliminate my right to a fair and equal wage, and increase how much I have to spend on health insurance, while at the same time relegating me to a second-class 'barely human' citizen because the only kinds of families that matter are the kind he personally approves of.
                          Um, where has he said any of the bolded parts?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by daleduke17 View Post
                            Um, where has he said any of the bolded parts?
                            He stated in the second debate that he didn't support the Lily Ledbetter act, which helps fight the gender paygap.

                            He's also stated, several times, that he's for "traditional" marriage only, which is a fancy way of saying "gays cant marry". If one group does not enjoy the rights of the whole, can they really be called first class citizens?

                            not to mention, he's...well, a republican, and the leaders of the republican party have become batshit insane when it comes to attacking lgbt and womens rights, especially reproductive rights.


                            Originally posted by Fire_on_High View Post
                            Color me twisted and demented then, because I'm going to vote for Romney, in the hopes a businessman can fix our screwed up economy.

                            Also, when you take the time to do so, welcome to his level...dehumanizing the other side for disagreeing and all.

                            As someone in another thread pointed out: This means that you care more about whether he can get the economy on track than whether or not someones rights are trampled and stripped away.

                            Now, I could go on about how Romney was a vulture capitalist, and how you cant run a country like a busines--at all--because its not, etc, etc, but Im not.

                            Because my main point is: You care more about jobs than rights. Thats what you say when you say you're voting for Romney because you think he can fix the economy, not considering how thoroughly he and his kin want to take us back to the fifties when it comes to civil rights for any and all groups.

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                            • #15
                              Romney is not a businessman. His dad was a businessman. His dad took a business and grew it. Romney took businesses and grew his own wealth and many times at the expense of the businesses in his care. When Romney said screw the auto industry and help the financial industry, we knew which side he was on. Never mind that the financial industry are the folks that got us into this mess.

                              Of course, sometimes it takes a crook to root out other crooks but I doubt that is his intention.

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