Is anyone here voting for Romney?

[Mr. Anubite]

My father is voting for Romney, and I'm really not sure why. My Dad confuses me when it comes to politics. He always told me to make my own decisions, as long as I make educated decisions, so he's completely supportive of my liberalism. He also usually breaks rank from the Republican Party on a range of issues.

He's very, very supportive of gay rights. Both his sister and myself are gay, so there's no surprise there.
He believes in amnesty for illegal immigrants, and reform to the system to make sure illegal immigration will never be necessary for people to move here.
He believes in religious freedom, and has many Muslim friends. He himself is Jewish.

I could go on. Sometimes, though, he'll say things that tell me he isn't really as well-educated on certain issues as he claims. I think many Republicans are in the same situation.

For example, he and I had a conversation about the ACLU the other day. I was really surprised to find out he doesn't like them. When I pressed him on it, he said "They support neo-Nazis in court." That being said, he is completely against "Hate Speech" laws, and it took months of patient explaining on my part to convince him of the merit of Hate Crime laws. He supports the rights of neo-Nazis to spew their filth. So why doesn't he like the ACLU?

Fox News. I don't want to come across as one of those people who blames Fox for everything, but that's what it is. He heard on Fox News that the ACLU is bad, and he assumed that it's their opposition to Hate Speech laws. Of course, Fox dislikes them because they try to prevent Christianity from becoming the de facto state religion.

So, I think many people who vote Republican do so because they don't really understand the issues. They really believe it's the right decision, and they really believe that the Democrats are somehow bad for the country, but when confronted, they really don't know why.

[Gravekeeper]

More or less horrified than when Sarah Palin was considered a serious candidate?

More. Palin still had to wait for McCain to die and Palin was just stupid. Romney is a power grubbing pathological lying sack of self serving shit. Palin was a god damn moron, but she was a patriotic one and would do what she thought was best for the country even if horribly misguided.

Romney has absolutely no interest what so ever in anything that doesn't further Romney and would roll back women's rights a few hundred years in the process.

So, I think many people who vote Republican do so because they don't really understand the issues.

That's the understatement of the century. The "low information voter" is the GOP's bread and butter. Convincing a segment of your population that doesn't know any better of a complete alternate reality is literally their entire campaign strategy. I mean fuck, there are still Republicans that believe Saddam had WMDs.

This time around you have people that are quite literally convinced Obama is a Muslim usurper, or at best the "Worst president in history". A statement that takes a staggeringly level of stupidity to believe considering his predecessor.

[wolfie]

The excuses--- I mean REASONS I've heard is that he "knows economy better than Obama" and that he'll "fix the economy."

Romney is definitely qualified to fix the economy. Of course, when I got my dog fixed, the vet cut his balls off.

[Anthony K. S.]

The "low information voter" is the GOP's bread and butter.

I still cringe whenever I think about the people who kept insisting that the economic collapse at the end of the Bush administration was entirely the Democrats' fault.

"The economy was doing just fine until the Democrats took control of Congress, and then it collapsed. You do the math."

... That was it. That was literally the sum total of their knowledge.

These people had absolutely no clue how or why the collapse happened, what caused it, what any of the contributing factors (which actually dated back to Bill Clinton's administration) were ... They knew nothing, except the fact that the collapsed happened shortly after the Democrats took control of Congress.

And they were actually shocked at the idea that they even needed to know any more.

They just kept repeating the line quoted above over and over, and couldn't understand how anybody could think that there was anything more to the situation than that.

The truth, of course, is that the economy was not doing "just fine" before the Democrats achieved their majorities in Congress. It had been on a downward spiral for several years, but the Bush administration had managed to keep it artificially high, until it all finally caught up to them and crashed on them in 2008.

But what got me was the people who seriously believed that it was doing "just fine" simply because it wasn't showing any obvious or visible signs of weakening. As I've often said, these must be the same people who think that as long as you're not feeling any pain or showing any visible signs of illness, then you must be in perfect health.


In this election, I think that a great many GOP voters are clinging for dear life to the idea that Romney will fix the economy because "conservatives are better at handling the economy than liberals are."

And they will just keep repeating that come hell or high water, no matter how many times you explain to them that Romney's father was a businessman, not Romney himself. No matter how many times you explain that Romney's father grew a business, while the only thing Romney ever grew was his own fortune, at the expense of the businesses he took over.

It kind of reminds me of when I was growing up and my mother wanted me to become a lawyer "because lawyers make a lot of money." No matter how many times my teachers and I explained to her that it's actually very hard to make a living as a lawyer because of the overabundance of them in the U.S., she still kept insisting that I should become a lawyer "because lawyers make a lot of money."

Some people just can't move their heads beyond their own tiny little entrenched visions.

[Giggle Goose]

My mom is voting for Romney because she's a life-long Republican and hates people on welfare. And she's racist.

[Dreamstalker]

My right-wing uncle and aunt in CA are probably voting for Romney, but nobody else I know is (that I'm aware of). They're of the belief that they'll be 'saved' (and everything's hunky-dory) because they have lots of money.

[bex1218]

One of my aunts, my dad and step mom, my step mom's dad and step mom (dunno bout her mom and step dad), a few of my uncles, a high school friend of mine, a coworker are all voting Romeny.

Only three reasons I can think of:
- racist (to an extent, hard to explain) gun toting rich redneck
-or just plain old rich (excluding my dad and step mom -more middle class-)
-Christian views (hs friend, said she wants equality for everyone but liked posts from pages that only supports marriage between man and women, I just don't get it. Probably why we don't talk much)


Oh, theres a fourth and fifth:
They think Obama created this mess and think he lacks the skill to be Commander in Chief.

[crashhelmet]

I can almost guarantee that my dad is voting for Romney. He's a life long republican, life long military, and doesn't seem to grasp that he can vote any other way. The sad thing is that when we talk about politics, he agrees with so much of what an Obama supporter would.

Even if I was the staunchiest of Republicans, I couldn't vote for Romney. I know lieing and politicians is like racists and hate, but I don't think I've ever seen one caught in a lie and continue to tell the lie as much as his campaign does. Add in his business and political track record and I'm prepared to move to Winnipeg with friends or Guadalajara with family if he wins.

[BrenDAnn]

I am not voting for Romney, nor would I ever, even if someone had me at gunpoint, telling me to do so. That said, I've heard a lot of people will vote for Romney simply because he's "Not Obama". These people will destroy the rest of us. You're a damn ignorant fool if you think Romney's first orders of business wouldn't be to roll back women's rights (among others) and then bomb the vast majority of the middle east. Just saying. The only good thing he could EVER do for this country is losing tomorrow!

[AmbrosiaWriter]

Though I just saw a bit of hope;

My friend's grandmother, who has been a life long Republican and a very strict conservative, has stated, "I just can't bring myself to vote for Romney..."

So there is some hope out there. JUST KEEP... BELIEVING.

[crashhelmet]

What I'm hoping for is the Anti-Obama people that are intelligent enough to realize how bad Romney would be, would vote for Gary Johnson, or some other candidate. Get the vote counted, but for someone else. It might finally wake up the system to clean up this bullshit or start to support a system of more than 2 primary parties.

Imagine if Nader had 10 million votes last election, instead of ~750k. It might not have been enough to win anything, but a number like that might shake things up.

[insertNameHere]

I'd say, mostly seriously, that the states west of the Rockies could probably secede from the US and be self-supporting, and if the shit hit the fan at the National level, that's what I'd be angling for. Between southern California, Washington, and Nevada, we'd be a pretty powerful nation on our own.

Pretty sure Texas is going to roll in an slaughter everyone with "high capacity" magazines compared to limited firepower california allows, but they will be too stoned to care.

[Andara Bledin]

I have a co-worker who would be voting for Romney if it weren't for the fact that we're in California. He's one of those "temporarily embarrassed millionaires."

And, from a few discussions I've had with him, painfully ignorant of some rather basic information.

^-.-^

[Tanasi]

Well I'm not voting for Romney because I like him I'm voting for him because I'm voting against Obama. Why??? Well according to Obama's supports it's because I'm racist, so any legitimate reason doesn't matter, it's because he a negro. Never mind I'm part of an even smaller minority.
In my family we make it a practice not to discuss politics but as far as I know no one in my family except for one of my SILs is voting for Obama, I guess we're a great big family of racists.
BTW Joe Biden there's a real brain trust.

[the_std]

Yep, every person who votes against the majority of this hugely influential forum of literally dozens of people is obviously a racist! Never mind that the liberal influence of this forum is likely due to the source of the registered users (retail and likewise professions, which tend towards liberal policies due to being the ones most stepped on by millionaire laws). Never mind that the countries this forum is most popular in tends towards a white population. Seriously, every person who doesn't vote for Obama is a smelly-poo RACIST!

Yep.