Is anyone here voting for Romney?

[AmbrosiaWriter]

You know, making fun of liberals by taking a talking point and blowing it up isn't helping your side of the argument at all. You're not answering why you're voting for Romney, you're just ridiculing and insulting the rest of us because as people who are not going to vote for Romney we OBVIOUSLY think anyone who votes for Romney must be racist.

Yeah, good job on that one. Yep. Because, as much as you want to deny it, Obama being half black IS a reason that people refuse to vote for him, just like him being black is the only reason that others will vote for him.

So how about instead you give us the actual reason that you would be voting for Romney, instead of trying to defend yourself against accusations that weren't leveled at you, just put out there as one of the reasons that people do, in fact, use.

[Greenday]

I managed to persuade a couple people to vote for me for president instead of whoever they were voting for. So I just need people who aren't from NJ, PA, or MD to vote for me. Let's get all 50 states.

GREENDAY FOR PRESIDENT!

[Gravekeeper]

Well I'm not voting for Romney because I like him I'm voting for him because I'm voting against Obama. Why??? Well according to Obama's supports it's because I'm racist, so any legitimate reason doesn't matter, it's because he a negro. Never mind I'm part of an even smaller minority.

This is remarkably stupid, FYI. You're voting against Obama because someone else voting for Obama said something bad about you? You should take a gander at some of the shit said by Romney "supporters" about the other side. They even have their own TV network.

BTW Joe Biden there's a real brain trust.

Biden is *very* sharp, despite outward appearances. Try watching the VP debate.

[AmbrosiaWriter]

I find it depressing that people who live outside our country are more in the know and paying attention to the debates and information than most of the people in our country.

[bex1218]

Well I'm not voting for Romney because I like him I'm voting for him because I'm voting against Obama. Why??? Well according to Obama's supports it's because I'm racist, so any legitimate reason doesn't matter, it's because he a negro. Never mind I'm part of an even smaller minority.
In my family we make it a practice not to discuss politics but as far as I know no one in my family except for one of my SILs is voting for Obama, I guess we're a great big family of racists.
BTW Joe Biden there's a real brain trust.

Well, we are a group of people who will read about why you are voting Romney.

I have yet to call anyone racist or homophobic just for voting for him.

[Eisa]

I find it depressing that people who live outside our country are more in the know and paying attention to the debates and information than most of the people in our country.

It really is depressing.

My aunt already early/absentee? voted for Romney. Because she thinks Obama is a socialist and/or communist, destroying our country, and that Romney is wonderful and brilliant. And of course, all she watches is Fox News and takes it all as gospel, while telling me that I should always "watch both sides and make up my own mind."

[Nekojin]

Winding back slightly:

More. Palin still had to wait for McCain to die and Palin was just stupid. Romney is a power grubbing pathological lying sack of self serving shit. Palin was a god damn moron, but she was a patriotic one and would do what she thought was best for the country even if horribly misguided.

This is false. Palin is immensely self-serving, and not really interested in serving anyone other than herself. There are many examples of her abusing her positions as Mayor and then Governor to pursue personal vendettas and personally-enriching projects. And then there's her SuperPAC, which raised over 4 million dollars, and expended... all of $80k on supporting candidates other than Romney, and a mere $5k on supporting Romney himself, while simultaneously cutting checks for herself and others to the tune of $1.3 million for "Administrative Expenses."

Wall Street Journal link

Palin is out for Palin. She is loyal only to the Cult of Herself.

[Panacea]

I must admit it worries me greatly that *anyone* would make that statement with such a matter of fact "of course". I'm really glad I'm not American. You people must be on the verge of a stroke at this point.

Yeah, pretty much.

I believe the rest of the world is currently horrified Romney is even considered a serious candidate. >.>

Believe me when I say there are plenty of people IN the USA who are currently horrified that Romney is even considered a serious candidate.

More or less horrified than when Sarah Palin was considered a serious candidate?

Palin was never a serious candidate. She was a joke from Day One. She was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I would have voted for McCain had he chosen a serious VP candidate.

Palin drove me from the Republican Party. I've been a member of the GOP since Reagan. I could live with Bush Jr's non-conservative leadership. I could not live with a self serving opportunist like Sarah Palin.

As the standing joke in my house goes, if Romney wins, how many states will secede and vonunteer for annexation to Canada to avoid his policies?

North Carolina will secede and volunteer for annexation to South Africa if Obama wins. The cities will be little autonomous states like Soweto, while the rest of the state goes back to apartheid.

My father is voting for Romney, and I'm really not sure why. My Dad confuses me when it comes to politics. He always told me to make my own decisions, as long as I make educated decisions, so he's completely supportive of my liberalism. He also usually breaks rank from the Republican Party on a range of issues.

Based on your examples, I'd guess your dad is a fiscal conservative. The GOP contains two groups: fiscal conservatives, and social conservatives. Their goals are sometimes mutually exclusive, so the party sometimes seems a bit schizophrenic in its approach.

When I was a Republican, I was a fiscal conservative. I'm liberal on social issues.

Well I'm not voting for Romney because I like him I'm voting for him because I'm voting against Obama.
BTW Joe Biden there's a real brain trust.

The first statement really says it all: you're not for Romney, you're against Obama. It's that kind of thinking that has ground our government to a halt for the past four years.

I need more to make a vote. I liked McCain. Palin was too self centered and immature to take on the big job, which is partially why I went for Obama in 2008. But I liked Obama's message of change, and thought he had the vision to make it happen, so I also had reasons to vote FOR Obama as much as Against Palin.

Joe Biden is a smart man. He's no where near the gaffe machine Bush was, and he knows how to work with people to get the job done. He was VERY effective as Delaware's Senator, and as VP. He does his best work behind the scenes.

Biden is *very* sharp, despite outward appearances. Try watching the VP debate.

I saw the VP debate. Biden tore Ryan a new one. His theatrics were quite effective, and Ryan couldn't maintain eye contact with the audience, especially when he was talking about an economic plan that isn't his and that he knows is not workable.

[mikoyan29]

Romney decided my vote when he told the auto industry to go fuck off and die. I work in the Auto Industry and what he proposed would have pretty much destroyed the auto industry. Yes, Chrysler's bankruptcy would have started as Chapter 11 but with the banks not loaning money it would have turned into Chapter 7 pretty quickly. Same with GM. Ford wasn't in the best of shape either. GM and Chrysler going under probably would have meant the demise of some of the suppliers which would have hurt Ford as well. That wouldn't have been good for Toyota or Honda either as they use many of the same suppliers. Now then, if he would have said the same thing for the banks, I could have seen his position as being consistent...but he didn't, so he pretty much told me what side of the fence he was on.

What's amazing, is given all of that is that Michigan is so close for him.

[Talon]

Well I'm not voting for Romney because I like him I'm voting for him because I'm voting against Obama.

Given what a flip-flopping fraud Romney has shown himself to be, this is the very definition of cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

[Anthony K. S.]

Palin is immensely self-serving, and not really interested in serving anyone other than herself.

This is true.

Honestly, this is the woman who resigned her office so that she could go on speaking engagements and start collecting royalties from her book deal.

That was Palin's final action as governor of Alaska - to abandon her responsibilities to the people of her state, so that she could make herself rich.

Granted, Alaska is probably better off without her, but still ...

Why??? Well according to Obama's supports it's because I'm racist, so any legitimate reason doesn't matter, it's because he a negro.

That's odd.

I don't recall anybody on this forum claiming that all of Romney's supporters or Obama's opponents must be racists.

Racism has been raised as a factor for people voting against Obama ... because it IS a factor ... but nobody, as far as I can see, has claimed that it is the only one.

The general conclusions seem to be that GOP voters are stubbornly insisting on voting along party lines, that they're stuck in the mindset that conservatives are just better at handling the economy than liberals, that they're not really informed on the issues or Romney's background, etc.

Now, if you're a Romney supporter, I can understand why you'd be indignant at all of that.

But the reason people think that stuff is because that's the experience they've had from Republicans they've seen and heard. They're just telling it like they see it.

And, as has been pointed out, you're not helping your side here. You're upset because some Obama supporters are making unfair generalizations about Romney supporters (that they're all racist), so you're going to respond by making unfair generalizations about Obama supporters (that they all believe that only racists would oppose Obama) ... ?

Come on.

You have an opportunity to help your own side here. Tell us why you're supporting Romney or opposing Obama. Show us that there are legitimate, well-thought-out reasons to do so.

Seriously, every person who doesn't vote for Obama is a smelly-poo RACIST!

Or, you know, they're rubber and you're glue ...

[HYHYBT]

Palin was a god damn moron, but she was a patriotic one and would do what she thought was best for the country even if horribly misguided.

Taking this at face value for the moment... while not the best kind to have, such a person as you describe can make a passably good leader given two conditions: a good pick of advisors, and actually listening to them.

However...

This is false. Palin is immensely self-serving, and not really interested in serving anyone other than herself.

Seems a better description of this example. Hence the bus tour, but not actually going through the trouble of running.

What I'm hoping for is the Anti-Obama people that are intelligent enough to realize how bad Romney would be, would vote for Gary Johnson, or some other candidate. Get the vote counted, but for someone else.

Which, if it has any effect at all, would be to throw the election to the House, which will then pick Romney anyway?

Well I'm not voting for Romney because I like him I'm voting for him because I'm voting against Obama. Why??? Well according to Obama's supports it's because I'm racist, so any legitimate reason doesn't matter, it's because he a negro. Never mind I'm part of an even smaller minority.

As others have covered, that's not true... and especially not on this site. It's sad, though, that you choose to give no alternative explanation.

I've noticed this on Facebook as well. I see quite a few items shared around on both sides, and am guilty of passing along too many. But the vast majority I see that are either for Obama or against Romney, and ALL of them of that kind that I pass on to others, are reasons. Articles pointing out facts, images showing facts, or at the least, very specific opinions about *why.* Pretty much all I see from the other side are basically cheerleading, or at most repeating blatant lies. I sure wish somebody on that side would deign to explain why that is.

[the_std]

Okay, I'm posting this with my tongue firmly implanted in my cheek, but this gave me a giggle. I saw it on Twitter, said by the excellently insulting Jeremy Clarkson (from Top Gear)...

I'm intrigued. Does anyone who weighs less than a Volkswagen want Mitt Romney to win?

[Andara Bledin]

I would actually love to hear an articulate reason to vote for Romney.

So far, however, all I've heard from people explaining why they're voting for them doesn't pass muster.

First, there's the whole voting against Obama. Despite the fact that Romney doesn't show any evidence that he could do even close to what Obama has managed (and the fact that a decent chunk aren't voting on issues at all).

Then, there's the idea that Romney will do better for the economy. Unfortunately, all evidence points to the fact that Romney will do worse than Obama. Not only does Obama have a better track record in the private sector, but he also has a better track record politically. It's a great idea, but it has no basis in fact.

Moving on to the whole marriage boondoggle. Since this is a civil rights issue, it won't matter, in the long run, which side gets voted in because eventually it'll be Amended and no amount of teeth-gnashing is going to keep two people of the same gender from enjoying the benefits that are conferred through marriage and only through marriage.

Both sides are equally idiotic about recreational drugs, so there's no differentiation there.

Women's rights, however, is a massive issue, and every woman who votes for Romney ought to just sign her uterus over to the nearest male right now. And her paychecks, for that matter. Voting for Romney while female makes me think the person is either ignorant or is so afraid of free choice that they'll give it up just to feel comfortable.

Both sides are also rather corporatist, although Romney is notably more-so. So, if you're running a multi-national, million-dollar corporation that takes advantage of tax shelters, off-shore accounts, and likes abusing the lowly peons for every last penny, then Romney is definitely your man.

So, please, if you have a reason that isn't either based on racism, class stratification, or ignorance, I'd really like to hear it.

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[Greenday]

I've made a few "Convince me to vote for Romney" threads. No one can seem to supply a single valid reason.