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  • #61
    Originally posted by Panacea View Post
    My aunt actually convinced my Grandmother to vote for Bush in 2004, "because we can't change Presidents in wartime."
    Interesting. That actually reminded me of something a conservative blogger wrote after the 2004 elections.

    This blogger mentioned that the vast majority of military personnel had voted for Bush, and he referred to this as an "irrefutable statistic." He was basically claiming this was proof that Bush was viewed as a better Commander-in-Chief by the people in the best position to judge, the active military.

    Personally, I don't believe that any such thing as an "irrefutable statistic" exists. There are always many different factors that affect any statistic, and always multiple ways to interpret statistics.

    In this case, for example ...

    Let's set aside the fact that just because somebody is in the military does not mean that that will be the ONLY thing they care about in choosing a Presidential candidate.

    If I was a U.S. soldier in a war zone, I think that I would probably feel a little nervous about the idea of the White House going through a lengthy transition process with a new Commander-in-Chief just getting briefed on the classified details of the war, while I've got shells exploding around me.

    It's entirely possible that at least some of the military personnel who voted for Bush did so, not because they felt he was necessarily better qualified than Kerry, but because they were worried about the consequences of trying to change administrations while the war was in progress.

    People need to open their minds more. There is always more than one way to look at a situation. Just because you can't immediately see one doesn't mean that it can't exist.
    "Well, the good news is that no matter who wins, you all lose."

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    • #62
      Originally posted by siead_lietrathua View Post
      ^^ agreed. thou i've already had to remind "fleeing" republican friends we have social healthcare and gay marriage.
      No kidding. I saw at least two "I'm going to Canada"posts on Facebook last night. "

      "Sooo.... you want universal healthcare and gay marriage?"


      I voted, but my boyfriend declined to. He has a long argument about why he doesn't vote, and it makes total sense, but I couldn't explain it properly.

      I lean socially liberal so I voted for Obama. He is conservative, but sort of a combination conservative. Libertarian if anything.

      I would have a Technocracy if it were up to me.

      The people I know that voted for Romney seem to have done so for mainly religious reasons. Abortion, gay marriage etc. Some voted Libertarian I think.

      I voted Libertarian on local politics type stuff, not that I follow local politics too much, or am particularly unhappy with the city. I just mainly want to see a strong third party take off. If they can keep religiousness out of the conversation, even better.

      You know, at we don't have annoying Pat Robertson and co mugging the camera like we did in the '90s.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Anthony K. S. View Post
        Interesting. That actually reminded me of something a conservative blogger wrote after the 2004 elections.

        This blogger mentioned that the vast majority of military personnel had voted for Bush, and he referred to this as an "irrefutable statistic." He was basically claiming this was proof that Bush was viewed as a better Commander-in-Chief by the people in the best position to judge, the active military.

        Personally, I don't believe that any such thing as an "irrefutable statistic" exists. There are always many different factors that affect any statistic, and always multiple ways to interpret statistics.

        In this case, for example ...

        Let's set aside the fact that just because somebody is in the military does not mean that that will be the ONLY thing they care about in choosing a Presidential candidate.
        When I was in Afghanistan, most soldiers I met were from the South or Midwest. And guess which way the majority of people from those two regions vote? Holy crap, why is it no longer a surprise that they Republican?
        Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
          This is remarkably stupid, FYI. You're voting against Obama because someone else voting for Obama said something bad about you? You should take a gander at some of the shit said by Romney "supporters" about the other side. They even have their own TV network.




          Biden is *very* sharp, despite outward appearances. Try watching the VP debate.
          I mean this in the nicest possible way but Fuck you. According to a lot of Obama supporters I didn't vote for him for not other reason than he's black. It doesn't matter if I have any legitimate reason or not I'm a racist. Nevermind the millions of blacks that voted for Obama because he's black, their reason isn't questioned.
          I have my reasons for voting as I did but I choose at this time to keep them to myself after all I'm a racist.

          So Biden is given a pass for all the stupid stuff he continually utters but someone from the "other" side says something equally stupid and they're burned down as not being qualified. I'll judge the man by what he says and frankly I'm not impressed nor are the citizens in states 51 thru 57 that Obama has yet to visit.
          Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
            I mean this in the nicest possible way but Fuck you. According to a lot of Obama supporters I didn't vote for him for not other reason than he's black. It doesn't matter if I have any legitimate reason or not I'm a racist. Nevermind the millions of blacks that voted for Obama because he's black, their reason isn't questioned.
            I have my reasons for voting as I did but I choose at this time to keep them to myself after all I'm a racist.

            So Biden is given a pass for all the stupid stuff he continually utters but someone from the "other" side says something equally stupid and they're burned down as not being qualified. I'll judge the man by what he says and frankly I'm not impressed nor are the citizens in states 51 thru 57 that Obama has yet to visit.
            Sooooo basically you have no legitimate reason for voting for Romney and just decided to go on the offensive? I know they say that the best defense is a good offense but sometimes it just makes you look like a douche.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
              I mean this in the nicest possible way but Fuck you.
              Mod hat on - crossing the line into personal attack there. Stick to the points please.

              Rapscallion
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
                According to a lot of Obama supporters I didn't vote for him for not other reason than he's black. It doesn't matter if I have any legitimate reason or not I'm a racist.

                I have my reasons for voting as I did but I choose at this time to keep them to myself after all I'm a racist.
                Okay, let's try explaining this again.

                The fact that some Obama supporters automatically assume that anyone who supports Romney is a racist does NOT mean that all Obama supporters think that way.

                Nobody on this forum has expressed or condoned the view that anyone who opposes Obama must be a racist.

                You're angry because some people refuse to listen when you say that you have legitimate reasons to oppose Obama ... so you're retaliating by refusing to listen to people when they say that they don't share the view that you must be a racist, or when they say that they WILL listen to you if you tell them what your views actually are. Does that really sound reasonable to you?

                Honestly, what was it? Did you vote against Obama because he made that silly verbal gaffe about there being 57 states?

                If you have an argument to make, then make it. I don't see what you hope to accomplish by coming on this thread and saying you're not going to talk to us because of something that nobody here had anything to do with in the first place.
                "Well, the good news is that no matter who wins, you all lose."

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                • #68
                  I voted for Romney.

                  Various reasons, but mainly because Obama makes me very very nervous by the way he deals with Israel.

                  (Yes, I'm an unapologetic religious Zionist. Let the condemnations begin.)

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
                    I have my reasons for voting as I did but I choose at this time to keep them to myself after all I'm a racist.
                    Something no one here called you. So you're acting like a child while arguing with some phantom construct that isn't even here to avoid having to explain your position?


                    Originally posted by Shalom View Post
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                    Various reasons, but mainly because Obama makes me very very nervous by the way he deals with Israel.
                    But starting a war with Iran is fine? ;p

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
                      I mean this in the nicest possible way but Fuck you. According to a lot of Obama supporters I didn't vote for him for not other reason than he's black. It doesn't matter if I have any legitimate reason or not I'm a racist. Nevermind the millions of blacks that voted for Obama because he's black, their reason isn't questioned.
                      I have my reasons for voting as I did but I choose at this time to keep them to myself after all I'm a racist.

                      So Biden is given a pass for all the stupid stuff he continually utters but someone from the "other" side says something equally stupid and they're burned down as not being qualified. I'll judge the man by what he says and frankly I'm not impressed nor are the citizens in states 51 thru 57 that Obama has yet to visit.
                      As many others have said--no one here has said anything of the sort.

                      Tell. us. your. Damn. Reasons. Stop acting like a child.

                      Are you fiscally conservative? Socially conservative? Do you think Obama just botched the last four years? Think Romney would be better because he has business experience? WHAT ARE YOUR REASONS?

                      Tell. Us. No one on this board has made any accusations of racism, one way or the other, to my knowledge, based purely on who someone decides to vote for.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
                        I have my reasons for voting as I did but I choose at this time to keep them to myself after all I'm a racist.
                        If you don't want to say your reasons why, the don't post in here. The point of this thread was to give reasons why.

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                        • #72
                          So tell me how is voting for or against someone based upon racial reasons any less valid than other reasons???
                          He's blacker than I, he's whiter than I, I just only happen to be redder than he.
                          I've never said nor implied that anyone here has said I'm racist. The only person that has said I'm racist is me and some Obama supporters (if you're lumping yourself in then that's your problem), so why do the rest of you have a problem saying that voting for someone based upon their racial makeup is racist???
                          Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
                            So tell me how is voting for or against someone based upon racial reasons any less valid than other reasons???
                            He's blacker than I, he's whiter than I, I just only happen to be redder than he.
                            I've never said nor implied that anyone here has said I'm racist. The only person that has said I'm racist is me and some Obama supporters (if you're lumping yourself in then that's your problem), so why do the rest of you have a problem saying that voting for someone based upon their racial makeup is racist???
                            You're missing the point. Hell, you're not even in the same state as the point. The point is finding out why you voted for Romney. That's the topic of the thread, why did you vote for Romney? We don't have a problem with you saying that voting for someone based upon their race is racist, we have a problem with you evading a direct question.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Tanasi View Post
                              I've never said nor implied that anyone here has said I'm racist. The only person that has said I'm racist is me and some Obama supporters (if you're lumping yourself in then that's your problem)
                              ... Huh?

                              Wait, back up.

                              You come on to a thread asking why people are voting for Romney, and say that you won't explain your reasons because Obama supporters would just assume that you're a racist ...

                              ... and it's our fault for interpreting that to mean you're saying that we would dismiss your opposition to Obama as racist?

                              Congratulations. We've officially left the rational world behind.
                              "Well, the good news is that no matter who wins, you all lose."

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                              • #75
                                I voted for Romney because I'm racist just like millions of negros are racist because they voted for Obama. Am I more racist than they???

                                Why is voting for someone based upon race any less a good reason than any other reason???
                                Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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