Sarah Palin is NOT the presidential candidate!

[Boozy]

Mind you, I happen to think that Sarah Palin is in the MILF territory. Can anyone else agree with this?

My husband agrees. And hates himself for it.
Her husband (Todd?) ain't so bad himself.

Umm.... Sylvia. I really hope those were typos.

I think they were, because Sylvia correctly used "Obama" in the OP, so I doubt she's trying to make a point. I can understand the confusion, frankly...most people who make that slip don't mean anything by it. We've seen the name "Osama" in the news every day for 7 years. It's really under the skin at this point.

[IDrinkaRum]

Simple, there isn't anything anyone can do (beyond preventive health care) to keep McCain from having a cancer relapse or a heart attack. But the Secret Service can damn well protect Obama. Also, we are not in the Civil War, folks, and the South was desegregated 50 years ago. Yes there are a handful of racist nut jobs out there. But to think that hordes of people are going to be aiming sniper rifles at Obama, should he be elected, is a little ridiculous.

However, if the unthinkable happens to Obama, then he has an extremely competent and experienced replacement. Joe Biden isn't in the news - because what can they slam him with? A few verbal gaffes? Joe Biden was an extremely smart choice made by a candidate who needed to beef up his foreign policy credentials. Palin was a ridiculous choice, probably forced on McCain to draw in those oh-so-important Christian Conservatives and far righters that were afraid of McCain's moderate-ness. I used to have a lot of respect for McCain, but he has allowed himself to be pushed so far right in the past year, combined with his "bulldog" of a VP...yeesh.

And the Secret Service agents did such a great job at keeping John F. Kennedy safe, MacGovern (though not the President, but was running for the office was shot and paralyzed) safe, Robert Kennedy safe, and Ronald Reagan safe too. (Nice mix of Dems and Repubs there).

As for Biden. I know quite a few people who are upset with Obama (and these people support him) for picking Biden. Why? The man is a plagiarist. That makes him suspect in some people's eyes.

As for MacCain dying during his presidency? My husband just told me during dinner that a guy he knew who was 38 years old, had a wife and 2 kids died in his shower. He had a brain aneurysm. So even if Obama isn't targeted by racist asshats who think the Civil War never ended, he could die from an aneurysm justlikethat. So there is nothing to stop Biden from taking over the Presidency as there is nothing from Palin taking over the Presidency if MacCain were to "kick the bucket".

[BlaqueKatt]

I think they were, because Sylvia correctly used "Obama" in the OP, so I doubt she's trying to make a point. I can understand the confusion, frankly...most people who make that slip don't mean anything by it. We've seen the name "Osama" in the news every day for 7 years. It's really under the skin at this point.

also some posters type and run spell check in MS word* before posting(which I should start as I just lost an hour's worth of mostly research and some typing when firefox crashed-looking up a 2006 article from the chicago tribune detailing Michelle Obama's 260% raise after her senator husband gave the hospital she worked at a million dollars of taxpayer money, and several articles on McCain's cancer**)

The media says Obama's family is off limits-but refuses to grant the same courtesy to McCain and Palin. How many articles written on McCain's divorce, and Palin's daughter/disabled baby? And people can honestly claim there is no media bias?


And I'm tired of anytime anyone says anything against Obama it's obviously racist-yet "the republicans need a thicker skin, attacking Govorner Palin isn't sexist"

and the lovely "McBush" comments, I am sick and tired of it-I'm not voting for either one, but am constantly being told by Obama's supporters, I'm racist/uneducated/ignorant etc. for not liking their candidate. Gee way to win me over guys

I actually feel this article sums it up As does this-putting out-of-context Rush Limbaugh quotes on an anti-McCain ad-linking them because they're republican-where's the media outrage?

There will be none.


*which changes Obama to Osama-just throwing out another possibility.

**The melanoma removed in 2000 was Stage IIa on a standard classification that makes Stage IV the most serious. For Stage IIa melanoma, the survival rate 10 years after diagnosis is about 65 percent. But the outlook is much better for patients like Mr. McCain, who have already survived more than seven years.

For patients with a melanoma like Mr. McCain’s who remained free of the disease for the first five years after diagnosis, the probability of recurrence during the next five years was 14 percent and death 9 percent, a study published in 1992 found.

[Sylvia727]

Umm.... Sylvia. I really hope those were typos.

Oh lordie. I typed it correctly, thought "wait, that's the terrorist", and typed it wrongly. I blame the radicals confusing me and a lack of caffeine.

My sincere apologies.

... the Secret Service can damn well protect Obama.

There's only so much they can do. As fast as security is updated, so are the methods for getting around them. The first non-white president? Who happens to be black, the race farthest from white ethnically, socially, and politically? He is and will be hated by a certain segments of our population...not that we have any more racists than others, but because we're large enough that we have more citizens of every type. I've heard enough bs about him now, from people who aren't violent sociopaths.

Yeah, the first black president of America, whether Obama or someone else, is going to have assassination attempts. A successful attempt isn't likely...but it is possible and plausible, and a very real concern for Obama's veep.

Joe Biden isn't in the news - because what can they slam him with? A few verbal gaffes?

That can account for his absence on the tabloid covers. But why isn't he being discussed as much in legitimate political circles? Name an issue, and I can quote you McCain's, Obama's, and Palin's positions on most, but Biden's on only a few.

The media says Obama's family is off limits-but refuses to grant the same courtesy to McCain and Palin.

In fairness, Obama's had his share of scandals. I've heard about his hateful former reverend, his "anti-American" wife, and a whole load of horse manure that turned out to be completely unsubstantiated. But those issues are far more "public" than a pregnant teen or a special needs baby, and yet Palin's children are splashed all over the magazine covers. Adults can make decisions. Children, not as much.

My concern isn't that Palin is in the news at all. And while I'm angry that she's attacked for being female and being a mother, that's not the point of this thread. The point I was trying to make is that some people are treating her as if she's more important than McCain. I would prefer to see the presidential candidate discussed as if he might, y'know, become the most powerful individual in the USA. Just sayin'.

I would also like to see the candidates' personal lives kept personal, but that's another rant entirely. And just for the record, lest people think me biased, I'm an independent voter and I still haven't made up my mind which way to vote.

[IDrinkaRum]

My father had skin cancer - on the back of his neck (Irish American with the fair skin and hazel eyes) - yeah, he tans as red as a lobster. He had it removed back in 2001. His doctor told us he was lucky that he came in when he did. If he'd waited just an extra week, he'd have been in Stage III and his chances for survival would have gone down significantly. My father is still alive.

My grandfather also had skin cancer (fair skinned, full blooded German). It was on his face. He died of an aneurysm in his stomach. Not the cancer.

*knocks on wood* I am as fair skinned as my father and Grandfather. I haven't gotten cancer - yet. And I do not tan at all - I go to red and thetn after the red fades, I'm very white.

Just because you have skin cancer doesn't mean you will die from it or that it will recur. Just as if you have other forms of cancer.

Just wanted to point this out.

[Rapscallion]

There may not be many people with sniper rifles and the desire to kill a black president, but unfortunately it only takes one to slip through.

Rapscallion

[Slytovhand]

And for everyone's information, Adam West (of Batman fame) is 80 years old today

Well - of course he's not dead... he's Batman!!!!! He can't die!

(ok, admittedly, Christopher Reeves did... but he had too much kryptonite exposure...)

[Greenday]

My friend's dad died at 50 years old. They couldn't figure out what he died of. He was an extremely healthy person. I guess that goes to show you that death really can be a random thing, no matter what your health is like. For all these people that live past the age expectancy, there are plenty who die younger too.

[BlaqueKatt]

Yeah, the first black president of America, whether Obama or someone else, is going to have assassination attempts. A successful attempt isn't likely...but it is possible and plausible, and a very real concern for Obama's veep.

and as I've pointed out previously-there's already been one, before he's even taken office. The attempt was thwarted, but this was at the DNC-and follow up here-they admitted after arrest they wanted to assassinate him, but they're only being charged with weapons violations-

"Johnson told a Secret Service agent, described only as SA Torres, that "Adolf had, in fact, threatened to kill Obama on a prior occasion ... that he wanted to kill Obama on the day of his inauguration and ... would specifically use a 22-250 sniper rifle."

Special Agent Shane Abraham of the ATF goes on to write, "Johnson then told (SA Torres) there were no political reasons for wanting to kill Obama, the only reason is because Obama is black."

Gartrell was arrested near Denver with two rifles, a bulletproof vest, ammunition, walkie-talkies and suspected drugs.

But the US attourney General says they're not a threat-they were just "drug addled" racists.

[blas87]

You don't think anyone wouldn't try to assassinate a woman president?

There's been assassination attempts on almost every president......

[IDrinkaRum]

Everyone wants to assassinate the President for either the love of a woman, the love of the country, or the love of themselves. And who's say that someone doesn't want to assassinate McCain?

[Seshat]

The point I was trying to make is that some people are treating her as if she's more important than McCain. I would prefer to see the presidential candidate discussed as if he might, y'know, become the most powerful individual in the USA. Just sayin'.

She's the most extreme of the four. This makes her the most newsworthy of the four.

IMO. YMMV.

[ArcticChicken]

Obama could very well be assassinated, and Joe Biden the next president. So why isn't an equal fury being made over him?

Because Democrats are more scared of Gov. Palin than Republicans are of Sen. Biden.

The media says Obama's family is off limits-but refuses to grant the same courtesy to McCain and Palin.

Sen. Obama's scandals happened during the primary, and the media doesn't want to keep writing the same stories, so the scandals are skew towards Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin.

And I'm tired of anytime anyone says anything against Obama it's obviously racist-yet "the republicans need a thicker skin, attacking Govorner Palin isn't sexist"

This is driving me absolutely crazy. I hate that people are saying this.

I'm a liberal, in fact I'm so liberal that no one would elect me for any major political office, were I to choose to run, and I will be voting for Sen. Obama, I'd quite literally have to see him burning down an orphanage on live national television before I'd even think about staying home on election day, much less voting for anyone else. That being said, I understand that other people have reasons for choosing Sen. McCain, beside his ethnicity, and I respect that opinion, even though I disagree.

I'm going to stop talking before I have to go start a new thread on why I hate politics.

[Gravekeeper]

Everyone wants to assassinate the President for either the love of a woman, the love of the country, or the love of themselves. And who's say that someone doesn't want to assassinate McCain?

You don't have to assassinate McCain. You could just wait him out to be honest. ;p

[MystyGlyttyr]

You don't have to assassinate McCain. You could just wait him out to be honest. ;p

Literally the first thing I've heard from any of the debates over the candidates that made me LOL for real.

So far as age, I don't debate that much for anything else. I've always preferred older people to folks closer to my own age, because 99% of people my age are complete MORONS. ...and only 98% of older people are complete morons.

Proven with science! (not really)

Anyway, I prefer experience to flash, always have. Flash makes me think that I'm supposed to get blinded to something important while I'm looking at the shiny lights and big names and whatever else, so when someone tries to paint themselves as big and shiny and awesome, I start wondering what they're trying to distract me from and start doing more digging on my own.

(And this applies to both sides...people could probably read my posts and figure out which way I lean, but it won't be this post...)