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  • #16
    Originally posted by Duelist925 View Post
    How is abortion an unnecessary procedure? There are a multitude of situations that make it necessary, ranging from medical (Physical and mental), to economic, to a woman simply not wanting to give birth.
    Well, I already covered medical (Medical insurance should cover operations that are for medical reasons.

    If someone gets pregnant from recreational sex and they want an abortion because they just don't want a kid or can't afford one, that doesn't make it medically necessary. And if it's not medically necessary, I'm not sure why an insurance company should be forced to cover it. At some point, a choice was made to have sex and consenting adults know there is always a risk of pregnancy. It's a risk everyone has to make with themselves and if it happens, the insurance company shouldn't have to pay for the mistake.
    Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Greenday View Post
      Well, I already covered medical (Medical insurance should cover operations that are for medical reasons.

      If someone gets pregnant from recreational sex and they want an abortion because they just don't want a kid or can't afford one, that doesn't make it medically necessary. And if it's not medically necessary, I'm not sure why an insurance company should be forced to cover it. At some point, a choice was made to have sex and consenting adults know there is always a risk of pregnancy. It's a risk everyone has to make with themselves and if it happens, the insurance company shouldn't have to pay for the mistake.
      a) there is no exclusion where the pregnancy is due to rape.
      b) there are several situations I can think of where an abortion would be necessary for medical reasons (various fetal issues that can either be summed up as "it won't survive until birth anyway" and "it's killing the mother"
      c) medical insurance usually pays out where the treatment is due to the policyholder's own screwup
      d) the simple fact is, I believe it should be up to the insurance company. What I dislike is how the law FORCES you to buy insurance separately to cover abortion. To me, it's sort of like saying that with home insurance, you need to buy a rider if you want coverage for if somebody takes your TV.

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      • #18
        Psychological necessity is still a necessity. Pregnancy can be quite a difficult and unpleasant, even traumatic experience even when you DO want the baby. If you don't want it, it'd feel even worse.

        I'd not consider it a necessity if pregnancy was nine months of a mild bother, like if you just grew a little extra body hair or got a weird mark on your skin or something. But it's an emotional rollercoaster. It's an awful thing to put someone on if they don't want to be there, and it's damn unpleasant even if they do.
        "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
        ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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        • #19
          Given that they cover giving birth, why (other than this stupid law) *wouldn't* they cover a much cheaper procedure which would prevent the expensive one?
          "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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          • #20
            I'm known for being pretty conservative, but I'm more pro-choice than anything else on this matter.

            Going to the second high school that I went to, and seeing how some of my friends' and old acquaintances' lives have turned out, honestly, they either should have given their children up for adoption or, sadly, gotten abortions. Because I truly don't know how some of those babies weren't miscarriages or how those kids are even still alive with how dumb some of these people are.

            I feel awful saying that about innocent children, and now what's done is done and they're growing up to be kids....but there is such messes involved in all of these broken home type relationships from unplanned pregnancies.

            Honestly, I'm more pro-adoption than abortion, I guess. It breaks my heart that these people are so dumb they think they need to keep their baby and raise it....and then you get to see all the "baby mama/baby daddy drama" all over FB and hear about it at work or wherever, and the kids will never ever know what it's like to grow up with a normal family. Those kids could be with really good married financially stable parents right now.

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            • #21
              Hey guys, I had Mom go down to the Capitol to look over this bill. The six insurance companies mentioned only serve those in Michigan and have been given the option to drop abortion coverage. All other insurance companies must still cover the procedure if they insure anyone in another state.

              Also the bill covers D&C's as well which puts women covered by those six companies at even more of a risk. That means any polyps in the uterine lining don't need to be covered because there is likely hood of a unknown abortion being caused.

              This has been on our state ballet for more then ten years running and always failed in a 90% run. It's just now the right to lifers have found the right loop hole to get this passed. Our next ballet will already have a repeal vote with the option of a bill with this wording to never come up again.

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              • #22
                'til you see the hash that the adoption system makes of things- adoptive parents are stupid and evil too, sometimes. Merely wanting a kid doesn't make someone a good parent- it's just a start.

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