Tired of this "elitist" BS

[ArenaBoy]

I can't imagine anyone who's GOOD at cooking choosing to cook at McDonald's for any reason other than desperation.

The response made implied that just because someone's working as a cook at McDonald's doesn't mean that they're incompetent at communicating. For all we know the cook could be good or they're shorthanded.

Now, good at food hygiene and capable of producing edible food: sure. But not someone who enjoys cuisine.

Strange. I know plenty of people who enjoy cuisine and don't mind the occasional Burger King.

[DarthRetard]

I'll take that first sentence of your most recent post as a personal attack, gbm, as I'm sure it was intended for me. I scored in the 99th percentile(meaning only 1% of students scored higher than me in the entire state) in reading, and the 98th in math on our state standardized test. I also was taking 4th grade reading AND math at an advanced level whilst being in 3rd grade. I think I'm more than qualified in the reading comprehension my collegiate friend.

I wasn't trying to attack you, just what you said. Maybe I didn't clarify myself well enough, which is partly my fault. I still think that statement was an elitist load of b.s. though.

[AFPheonix]

Do you expect the person cooking your burger at McDonald's to understand contractions? Because that's who a high school graduate is these days.

And if someone would like to quote my previous post and point out exactly where I said that all McDonald's employees are high-school graduates with no intention of moving up, or that they all work at McDonald's because they like the low standards, then please do so. I would be absolutely delighted.

Do you know why people cook at McDonald's instead of holding a position that works with the public? Most of the time it is because they lack proper communication skills. Therefore, I do not find it the least bit unreasonable to say that the cooks at McDonald's do not have good grammar or punctuation skills.

Oh I don't know, that sounds like exactly what you said previously. If you didn't mean it, then by all means, elaborate on what you truly meant.

My BIL is currently working as a cook at a fast food restaurant. He reads, writes, and talks effectively, but because his credit is in the shitter, he has no car anymore, and he's working through a lot of personal problems, he's stuck being a cook at a fast food joint. I suspect he can use contractions properly.
At his particular chain, they put the noobs in the back cooking and cycle them up front as they gain mileage. I don't know if that's the case everywhere.

That's not to say he's not looking for other work while he's doing this job, it was something that hired him on fast, he needed the money. When he can get a better job, he'll go elsewhere.
He's just one example of I'm sure plenty of burger flippers who can write as well as you.

[FashionLad]

I'll take that first sentence of your most recent post as a personal attack, gbm, as I'm sure it was intended for me. I scored in the 99th percentile(meaning only 1% of students scored higher than me in the entire state) in reading, and the 98th in math on our state standardized test. I also was taking 4th grade reading AND math at an advanced level whilst being in 3rd grade. I think I'm more than qualified in the reading comprehension my collegiate friend.

I don't think gbm was talking in absolutes. So, I'm thinking comprehension might be a bit lacking. I say this certainly when he refers to people who hold a job cooking at McDonald's instead of moving up.

I don't put any stock into state standarized tests. Communications is very important, but you also must know how to relate to people. That's another form of communication. If you're out pissing everyone off but you scored in the 98th percentile, you're not going anywhere in life. You can get A's all your life and score really high in tests, but you still might be dumb as a rock.

[Boozy]

I read all the time. Get your read pens out, because I'm about to make a ton of grammatical errors...

You're not making any of the major errors I was talking about. We all make some errors, especially in the relaxed atmosphere of discussion forums.

I just wanted to make it clear that I was not saying anyone here doesn't read.

Quoted for emphasis:

No one here is making any of these major errors, btw. Everyone's post is readable.

[Giggle Goose]

It takes a lot for me to make a post this long. So here goes.

I don't put any stock into state standarized tests.

Neither do I. My ex-boyfriend scored a 1550 on the SAT; back when it was a max score of 1600. They make you write an essay nowadays, I hear (senior moment ).

But anyway, as some of you might already know from my posts way back when, he was (and still is) a total elitist snob who got way too cocky about his "abilities" and ending up failing out of college. Last I heard his credit was in the shitter and he cut off the tip of his finger in a work-related accident. Which probably wouldn't have happened if he had gotten his illustrious job discovering the cure for cancer or something. (I'm not going to debate the merits on this, so don't jump on me. I'm just giving a real-world example).

Also, someone might not know all the proper rules of grammar in their WRITING, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can't orally communicate properly. Like Darth, I scored very high on all those standardized reading tests and all that crap. (And rightfully so, since I've probably had more intelligent conversations with this guy than anyone else I know). However, my SAT was crap thanks to my math score. At both restaurants I work at, I'm a front of house employee; and so is my brother. He damn near failed out of high school and is severely dyslexic, but he almost always makes more tips than me because he knows how to talk to people. There's no other way I can describe it but that. My high-scoring self just doesn't like making small talk. So sue me.

I also get so sick of being such a high and mighty great communicator that sometimes I CHOOSE to work in the kitchen if they're short-handed. Yeah, that's right. Those guys make more money by the hour and don't have to depend on whether someone likes them or not in order to get paid; and I can curse like a sailor back there and prove that you can take the girl out of the trailer park, but.....you know the rest.

What am I using as a reference, you all might ask? My own life experience, and I think I know myself and what I've lived better than y'all.

[DarthRetard]

I don't think gbm was talking in absolutes. So, I'm thinking comprehension might be a bit lacking. I say this certainly when he refers to people who hold a job cooking at McDonald's instead of moving up.

I don't put any stock into state standarized tests. Communications is very important, but you also must know how to relate to people. That's another form of communication. If you're out pissing everyone off but you scored in the 98th percentile, you're not going anywhere in life. You can get A's all your life and score really high in tests, but you still might be dumb as a rock.

Never did I say that standardized tests were the be-all and end-all for grading abilities in general areas, but it IS a grading and testing system that, one assumes, does give a general idea. I was merely enumerating my qualifications in the terms of reading comprehension, that's all. I felt like I needed to state my merits in order to prove to the jury herewithin these said forums, that I am not, in fact, dumb as a rock.

Just because I may piss everyone off, it doesn't mean I'm not going anywhere in life. I personally think that pandering to everyone's sensitivities and being 100% PC all the time is a bullshit, flawed piece of logic that couldnt hold up in front of a summer breeze. Sometimes people are a little more keen on listening to you when you're not just shooting typical nonsense just because you think you may upset them. For as far as I'm concerned, I continue to try and serve my country in whatever way I can, and I put myself in the line of duty to defend the 1st amendment, and whether you, or anyone on this board likes it, I like to see it used and I WILL use it.

[Seshat]

The response made implied that just because someone's working as a cook at McDonald's doesn't mean that they're incompetent at communicating. For all we know the cook could be good or they're shorthanded.

I did get that. I just failed to communicate humour. My bad.

Strange. I know plenty of people who enjoy cuisine and don't mind the occasional Burger King.

There's a difference between an occasional Burger King and being stuck cooking to a timer. I enjoy baking, but part of my enjoyment of it is being able to be flexible and experiment. I probably would hate working in a restaurant kitchen as well, come to think of it. Cooking to a set menu isn't my thing, really.

Regardless, my post was simply an attempt to be somewhat lighthearted and a bit funny, I failed to communicate it, I apologise.

[Zyanya]

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lik u right so gud. haha u mispselled humor! fine u dont want to red my posts i do'nt care.

[Seshat]

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[DesignFox]

Did not! U r just jelos coz u dont spel rite ova in merika.

*snickers*

[AFPheonix]

whatevah! I do whut I want!

[protege]

Did not! U r just jelos coz u dont spel rite ova in merika.

Huked on foniks wurked fur yu....

[Zyanya]

There is a guy on a debate board I frequent that recently posted a huge wall of text post. He did not capitalize, barely used periods, had atrocious grammar, and averaged 3 misspellings in a sentence.

He wondered why none of us responded to him.

Finally, one of the more patient answered one of his 'red my posts' postings with the statement of 'we noted the effort you made in your post and figured you didn't have anything worth saying'

[Rapscallion]

Finally, one of the more patient answered one of his 'red my posts' postings with the statement of 'we noted the effort you made in your post and figured you didn't have anything worth saying'

I may have to borrow that.

Rapscallion