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  • #76
    I don't like it when people only use lower (or upper) case letters or they have a bunch of typos. I don't mind if you can't spell a difficult word, heck, I probably can't spell it myself but if it's a common word then you should know better. I also think it's bad when people use mostly text message stuff or just don't make any sense.

    I know I ussually try to proofread my posts and make sure I understand what I am writing. Yes, I make typos but usually I try to correct them before posting.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by TheRoo View Post
      A potential employee who takes the time to proofread an application before he or she turns it in is the kind of person that I wanted working for me.

      What if someone who does proofread it and over looks it? What then?

      I didn't know that if someone who is working fast-food is to damn stupid to function in the real world. Learn something new every day. What if they are in school trying to earn some spending money? Or it is a second job? Or even if the person is retired and earning some extra cash? GBM, I think that you need to step back and walk a mile in s fast food cooks shoes.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by powerboy View Post
        What if someone who does proofread it and over looks it? What then?
        Then it's their attention to detail, not laziness, that will be the issue. The lack of attention to detail is acceptable in some jobs. In many jobs, it's not okay.

        Resumes with spelling errors gets tossed in the garbage. I don't care if the resume was proofread poorly or not proofread at all. The end result is still faulty.

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        • #79
          So they could be the greatest employee in the world. But on their resume, they didn't capitalize the letter "I" (for example) that their resume would be tossed?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by powerboy View Post
            So they could be the greatest employee in the world. But on their resume, they didn't capitalize the letter "I" (for example) that their resume would be tossed?
            When I was hiring people, sometimes there would be dozens of applications for a single position. I couldn't interview them all, and a good way to weed out the people who can't be bothered by minor things like spelling and grammar was to toss out the applications that had errors in it.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by powerboy View Post
              So they could be the greatest employee in the world. But on their resume, they didn't capitalize the letter "I" (for example) that their resume would be tossed?
              Yes. Like TheRoo said, I'm not going to interview every person in the world, regardless of what their resumes look like, just in case I find a diamond in the rough.

              More importantly, there are some jobs where not capitalizing the "i" on a report for clients is a major problem. The lack of proofreading abilities automatically means they aren't the "greatest employee in the world."

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              • #82
                Take where I work. I work for a brokerage company. There's quite a bit of data entry involved. Any mistakes...could cost us money, or get us into trouble with the regulators. That's why we're constantly checking reports and other data.

                When we get resumes in, quite a few have spelling, or other errors. Those, I don't even bother with. They go right into the trash. We feel, that if you're not going to put in the effort of getting your resume in order...you're going to do the same if you work for us. In other words, why should we hire you?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by rdp78 View Post
                  I don't like it when people only use lower (or upper) case letters
                  I don't like that either. For some reason, all lowercase is more annoying to me than "yelling".

                  There's a dyslexic user on one of my forums who capitalizes the first letter of every word...it's a tad jarring to read, but it's known why they do it.

                  Resume formats generally confuse me. Everyone wants it done a different way it seems, with different contents. My job counselor wants me to include so much detail that in order to be legible (realistic font size) it goes onto a second page...correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most employers like resumes to be one page?
                  "Any state, any entity, any ideology which fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Dreamstalker View Post

                    Resume formats generally confuse me. Everyone wants it done a different way it seems, with different contents. My job counselor wants me to include so much detail that in order to be legible (realistic font size) it goes onto a second page...correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most employers like resumes to be one page?
                    I think the "one-page resume" has pretty much become a thing of the past. In my career field, we are actually encouraged to have multiple-page resumes. Also, I have read other resources that say that it's okay go use more than one page for your resume. The key is mainly to get the reader's attention on the first page.

                    Resume formats can be confusing, though. It really does seem like every single person thinks they should be written differently.

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                    • #85
                      I just got an e-mail from a student. All lowercase letters, no periods or commas, just a big block of text. GAH! It's so hard to read! If you're going to e-mail your teacher to ask about how you did on a paper, wouldn't you at least somewhat proofread it?

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by AdminAssistant View Post
                        I just got an e-mail from a student. All lowercase letters, no periods or commas, just a big block of text. GAH! It's so hard to read! If you're going to e-mail your teacher to ask about how you did on a paper, wouldn't you at least somewhat proofread it?
                        If it were me, I'd probably tell the student that I can't read their email. I'd make them ask properly before I answered them.

                        I do that to my 15 year old brother. If he emails me in text speak, I won't answer him. I tell him that he must use full sentences and punctuation if he expects an answer from me.

                        He caught on pretty quickly.
                        "Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
                        "And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter

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                        • #87
                          Im dyslexic (I had to be tested at highschool and university to qualify for extra help) and try as I might, I just don't "get it". I simply can not understand the rules of spelling, grammer, syntax.

                          Im a highschool grad, I have a BA in two essay writing subjects (History and Art History) and I was invited in to the honors programme but for the life of me I could not tell you where the correct place to put a , or a "". I struggle with putting a proper sentance together and paragraph structure is a battle. I still get there, their and the're wrong, heck Im almost 26 and I still can not tell my left from my right most of the time.

                          I also can not do algebra at all, I understand what they are asking, I understand the steps to solving the equation... but blow me down if I could get the numbers on the page to stay still. My dyslexia is made much worse when I feel pressured or as if people feel I am "dumb" because I put a . in the wrong place.

                          But holy crap I try, I had a tutor for 4 hours a week my entire school life, at uni I had tutors help me (not on my actual subjects but on my english skills) and strange enough, I always came in the top ten in my school in standardised tests(passing tests like that is half knowlegde and half test taking skill).... in fact one of my essays in highschool was ranked 3rd in the country, go figure!

                          There is a huge difference to me when someone genuinely struggles with english but they try and people who just can not be bothered at all.
                          But to be honest if someone thought I was less intelligent just because part of my brain does not connect like it should, I would think that reflected on them as a person a hell of a lot more than it would reflect on me.
                          I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ - Gandhi

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                          • #88
                            Kiwi- just by reading your posts, I wouldn't know you are dyslexic.
                            "Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
                            "And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by DesignFox View Post
                              Kiwi- just by reading your posts, I wouldn't know you are dyslexic.
                              Me neither

                              FWIW, anything more complicated than addition/subtraction with fractions confuses the hell out of me still. I can do some simple multiplication, but tend to take a somewhat complex-to-anyone-else shortcut.

                              I've had one or two employers think I was "slow" (GameStore owner sticks out in that regard)...I didn't disclose my Aspergers because it wasn't relevant to the job/would not affect my performance. Either way, condescending to me if I don't catch something the first time (most likely case of this is someone going too fast) pisses me off bigtime.
                              "Any state, any entity, any ideology which fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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                              • #90
                                My older brother has severe dyxlexia (possibly, too, undiagnosed Aspergers; my mum and I also think there's a chance that my dad also has it. There's no point in shaking things up at this point in time, tho), however, if you read an email or anything typed or written by him you wouldn't know. He rigorously spellchecks on a computer and often has several drafts in written letters before he sends it off. It's not a hard concept to grasp, to get someone to check over your CV and application form before sending it off. My sister in law checks my brother's written stuff; she's kind of like his beta.
                                "Oh wow, I can't believe how stupid I used to be and you still are."

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