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    This particular thread seeks to understand why people start agreeing with everyone else when they themselves have no experience on the (insert whatever they are saying here).

    The most specific example I have of this is Windows Vista. This is not a discussion about whether the program is a good one or not this is about the scenario I will show you.

    My friend has been telling me for the last year how much Vista sucks how it's a horrible program and no one should get it and won't the world be great once Windows 7 comes out. This is his opinion and as such he is entitled to it.

    My issue is that recently I upgraded to a new laptop that came bundled with Vista. Now I personally love it. I think it's great and it has features that I didn't even realize I was missing until I had them.

    Now what happened when I told my friend how much I loved it is that he was like, "Oh well (insert various names of other people) didn't like it"

    I naturally asked what issues he had as I know he utilizes his computer in some ways similar to what I do. He then reveals to me that he personally has never used Vista and his entire basis for vehmently hating it is because other people hate it.

    It got me to thinking how many times I have been told things are bad or suck that was not really an opinion based on that person's experience.

    Now I am very glad that my blanket policy is to try something, within reason, anyway.
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    I've always told people, that up until now, I'd never used Vista. Sure, it had its problems when it first came out...mainly because nobody had written updated drivers for it. Eventually, all of that was taken care of, and Vista seems to be more reliable than XP.

    Still, I can't really use Vista at work. None of the programs--our proprietary database, trading system, plus most of the applications we use--simply wasn't designed for Vista. All of it was designed to run under Windows 95/98/00/XP. With XP support possibly stopping over the summer, we're going to skip Vista, and jump to 7 instead. By then, every incompatible program will have been replaced.

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    • #3
      I know exactly what you mean.

      It's like certain movies and TV shows.
      I see them and enjoy them, only to find that, because of popular opinion, I was supposed to hate them.

      I come away entertained, and then get embarrassed to find the movie got a "Golden Raspberry" because it stunk up the place so badly.

      I found the same thing with Vista.
      The year that Vista came out, I got 2 new laptops for family members as Christmas gifts. Vista was loaded on both of them.
      I was a little leery, because I had been hearing only horror stories. I was pleasantly surprised to find I actually liked Vista as I played around with it and found out all of its features.

      I didn't understand the fuss.
      Point to Ponder:

      Is it considered irony when someone on an internet forum makes a post that can be considered to look like it was written by a 3rd grade dropout, and they are poking fun of the fact that another person couldn't spell?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ree View Post
        I didn't understand the fuss.
        Most of the fuss stemmed from people getting upset...that their scanner or other piece of outdated hardware (or software) wasn't Vista-compatible. They chose to complain immediately, instead of simply waiting a bit.

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        • #5
          I'm personally not a fan of Vista. Windows was always meant to be user friendly for their marketing. Vista is not. I regularly have to use school computers for assignments at times and they all have Vista. The new forms of word and excel take a lot more work to use. It used to just be everything was right in front of you to use and now they have all these tabs that still don't ever seem to have what I need. And the stupid start button got a lot smaller making it easier to miss!
          Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Greenday View Post
            The new forms of word and excel take a lot more work to use. It used to just be everything was right in front of you to use and now they have all these tabs that still don't ever seem to have what I need.
            That has absolutely nothing to do with Vista, you know. In fact, the OS designers have repeatedly stated they take their design choices from the people who design Office.

            And if you've such issues finding the start menu, try using the windows key to open the menu for you.
            Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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            • #7
              I hate the specialized bandwagons - for example, I study theatre, so I must love Glee right? Wrong. I've never seen it, and I don't really care to. Or, I'm a woman, so I must love sappy romantic comedies. Bleh.

              My favorite guilty pleasure movie is Tarantino's Death Proof. That always gets a strong, negative reaction, "OMG, that movie was crap! He stole it from some college kid! How could you like it?" Well, it has a kickass chase scene, enjoyable characters (2nd half), Kurt Russell as the most awesome creepy bad guy ever, and it's fun.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AdminAssistant View Post
                Or, I'm a woman, so I must love sappy romantic comedies. Bleh.
                lol I am a big ex soldier guy and romantic comedies are my guilty pleasure. I always shed a tear when Sally says, "I hate you Harry I really hate you" right before she kisses him.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BroomJockey View Post
                  That has absolutely nothing to do with Vista, you know. In fact, the OS designers have repeatedly stated they take their design choices from the people who design Office.

                  And if you've such issues finding the start menu, try using the windows key to open the menu for you.
                  Ugh, then I'd have to change what I'm used to!

                  /sarcasm
                  Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                    Ugh, then I'd have to change what I'm used to!

                    /sarcasm
                    Okay, I laughed. I admit it.

                    I notice though, everyone's talking about various bandwagons, but no one's actually talked about the OP, which was asking why bandwagoneering occurs. I'll now attempt to buck the trend by taking a stab at it.

                    People jump on the bandwagon because of herd instinct. We've ingrained to us from a young age that you can and will be rejected if your tastes differ from the majority. Even if you personally weren't rejected, you'd see it happen to others. So when you start hearing a groundswell of support for/against something, and you've no particular investment in it, you jump on the side that seems most popular and adopt it as your own. However, you know nothing about the topic beyond what you've been told by other people, so you make up for your lack of knowledge with volume and fervour in an attempt to convince people you know your position. Many people are even excellent at convincing themselves they really do hold that position and they care deeply.
                    Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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                    • #11
                      See even while getting picked on for holding different views I could never follow herd mentatly I was pathologically adverse to it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
                        See even while getting picked on for holding different views I could never follow herd mentatly I was pathologically adverse to it.
                        Yes, mine is hardly a comprehensive or universal explanation. Some people just like hating stuff. Or like liking stuff. Or like liking popular things. Or hate liking popular things. *shrug*
                        Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BroomJockey View Post
                          Yes, mine is hardly a comprehensive or universal explanation. Some people just like hating stuff. Or like liking stuff. Or like liking popular things. Or hate liking popular things. *shrug*
                          I thought yours was a very good explanation actually though was musing on maybe that is why I don't do it
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
                            was musing on maybe that is why I don't do it
                            Well, you would know you best, I believe. If not, you might have some issues
                            Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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                            • #15
                              Actually I have subscriptions.
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