Music and cars - I love the classics. I guess that makes me "out of touch."

[HEMI6point1]

I love classic rock. It's my favorite genre. I would much rather listen to Led Zeppelin or RUSH any day over most of the crap they have now.

Since the music video became a required thing on an artists' resume it seems like image nowadays is the sole factor for selling CDs (Oops, I meant downloads). Think about it: up until the very early 80's you could be the ugliest S.O.B but if you got pipes, you got a contract. Today you'll be rejected because you don't have the looks and aren't "pretty enough."

Because of this many of the artists these days may be hot, but take away the auto tune and synthesizers and they can't sing worth shit. I'm not going to name names because fanboys/girls will rush to their defense and start trashing me.

And no I'm not a fan of modern rock either because they all sound the same and there's not a guitar, bass or drum solo to be found. Probably because they know they aren't good enough to do a solo.

Same thing with cars - if I had the money I would much rather modify a '70 Chevelle than a new Honda Civic. Sorry, 4 cylinder cars that sound like they're farting don't interest me. Plus I hate front wheel drive. As the old saying goes, no replacement for displacement.

Because of my views on this, I have been accused of being "out of touch" or "stuck in the '60s/'70's." I have been told that I should try to listen to modern music because "right now you sound like you're 50 not 27." (Yes, someone has said that to me). A couple of people even said this might hurt me in the dating pool - "young women will not understand why you refuse to listen to almost anything modern or have any desire to buy an import." Bullshit!

I even got accused of being racist for my views. One person I know said if I were to modify a classic I should donk it (donks are the cars that sit up really high and have those giant rims and fan-belt tires). I told him "look if I'm going to modify a car I'll do real mods to it instead of gangster-izing it." Plus on some cars it's just blasphemy - why donk a classic like a Chevelle or Camaro? Of course, I got called racist cause as well all know only black people drive donks. Same thing with rap - I think it's the worst music on the planet, 90% of rap artists just talk about bitches, hoes and killing cops. Plus they steal and ruin classic rock songs to make their junk. Of course, I'm racist because as you know all rap artists are black.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

I love music. If it's good, I listen to it, if not, I don't. There are shitty songs and artists in every genre of music. While some may be predisposed to less qualitative work in general, they're few and far between.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but there's a decent chance that any given song from any given genre to catch my attention on it's own individual merits. Because there's enjoyable aspects to most.

Most 60's and 70's classic rock songs sound alike in the same way as 90's and thousand's rap songs. It's hard to appreciate the differences within an area you don't partake of.

I hear as many people receive ridicule for only liking modern music as those who only like older music. The music, then and now, isn't the issue. It's idiots deciding that one or the other is inherently bad that are the problem.

All people like good music, it's just that good music means something different for all of us. Everyone should be proud to simply enjoy what they enjoy and damn the peanut gallery.

Can't speak much to cars, 'cuz I don't really care, but it does seem bizarre to get a classic car and modern it up externally (I wouldn't be against, for instance, a new radio/stereo system), it just defeats the point. Something akin to buying the latest generation space-aged car and putting fins ont he back and whitewalls...

[muses_nightmare]

I don't think it makes you "out of touch". Personally I like practically any music, except classic rock, and 80's music. Heck I even like some hip-hop, given there is a distinction in my mind between hip-hop and rap.

People like what they like. What I have a problem with is elitists that think that "their" music is the only good music out there. I'll give any music a chance, and I'll let people know if I don't like it.

As for cars, well, I don't care either way. I'm not all that interested in cars.

[Greenday]

I deal with the same crap. I love classic rock and muscle cars. I love how all the classic rock bands have their own sound and are very distinctly different from each other. Easy to pick them apart. While I do like a few bands from this decade, the majority of them sounds immensely the same and I honestly have no ability to pick them apart.

As for cars, I can't stand people who know nothing about cars try to tell me what I should buy after my current car dies or what I should do when I get the car I want (currently wanting the ZR1 Corvette but I'd settle for the Z06). So far I've heard:

• "Turbo charge it!"
• "Add nitrousoxide!"
• "Get some sweet spoilers!"

Are you kidding me? Turbocharge a Corvette with that engine? Supercharge, yes. Turbocharge, negative. I think the next person who suggests nitrousoxide in a muscle car should get a serious beating. And spoilers just slow a car down geniuses. I nearly cried when in The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift they put a six-cylinder Japanese engine into a Mustang.

I just don't get what's so awesome about having a small little car all riced out. I de-riced my car out as much as I could but I just can't afford a couple things, and at this point, just makes finding my car in a parking lot a lot easier.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I mainly like classic rock from the 70s and 80s, with some 90s bands added to the mix. I'm just not very enamoured of modern bands. It's a bit difficult to get into a band who go on stage looking like they just walked in off the street; sing gloomy songs about nothing in particular; have a lead singer without an ounce of charisma; don't do any solos at all, and admit to going to bed at ten o'clock. Where's the fun in that?! I look at bands like that, shudder, and go back to my Motley Crue and Poison CDs.

I like a wide variety of music and it makes me laugh when I hear fanboys whining, "You're only saying that cuz you haven't even listened to them!" Oh, but I have... and I still don't care for them. Also, the fanboys never return the favour by listening to a bit of 80s hair metal or heavy rock. I still remember meeting a girl at a concert who claimed to be a Manson fan, but who didn't know that he himself was a huge Kiss fan. She just looked bemused after she'd slagged off Kiss to me (I was wearing my super glow in the dark Kiss faces shirt) and told me that I should listen to a decent band like Marilyn Manson, and I nearly bust a gut laughing. Note: I've been a Manson fan since I was in secondary school. It's hilarious when a relative newbie tells you stuff like that.

[Stormraven]

My musical tastes are eclectic. I range from Classic Rock to Alternative, New Wave, Heavy Metal, Celtic, Country, Classical, and Modern.

About the only genre I've never been able to get much into is Rap, and even there I've found the occasional gem.

[HEMI6point1]

Another issue is that many artists these days are focused on the single, never the album. 1 or 2 songs may be good then the rest are crappy filler songs.

Look back at most Led Zeppelin, AC/DC or RUSH albums. Ever single song is classic.

[muses_nightmare]

Another issue is that many artists these days are focused on the single, never the album. 1 or 2 songs may be good then the rest are crappy filler songs.

I'd disagree for some artists, I find I end up liking the other songs on their album more than the singles. I'm pretty sure most of you here don't like her, but I'm a Lady Gaga fan, and her non-single songs are are amazing. Despite what you may think, she has a voice on her.

I also get annoyed when people are shocked that I don't like the Beatles. They assume I just haven't listened to them, which I have. I just don't see what's so damn special about their songs. It makes some people think I'm out of touch. *shrugs* To each their own.

[protege]

Same thing with cars - if I had the money I would much rather modify a '70 Chevelle than a new Honda Civic. Sorry, 4 cylinder cars that sound like they're farting don't interest me. Plus I hate front wheel drive. As the old saying goes, no replacement for displacement.

Yep, and every 1960s and '70s V8-powered car sounds like it's going to throw a rod...because the owners remove the mufflers. Never really understood just *why* you'd want to do that. There are some aftermarket exhausts that actually sound pretty nice. And no, I'm *not* referring to fart cans!

Hell, my MG has a nice exhaust on it. It still has the original glass-pack that it came with. Even with it, it's still pretty loud at speed, but that's how the cars were originally, and probably why they sold in huge numbers

Because of my views on this, I have been accused of being "out of touch" or "stuck in the '60s/'70's." I have been told that I should try to listen to modern music because "right now you sound like you're 50 not 27." (Yes, someone has said that to me). A couple of people even said this might hurt me in the dating pool - "young women will not understand why you refuse to listen to almost anything modern or have any desire to buy an import." Bullshit!

My own musical tastes are stuck in the 1970s and '80s. Back then, most songs had more than 3 words in them, and more effort was put into writing than into dance moves. Oh, and very little of it was computer generated--the artists actually played instruments As such, very little of my music collection is from after 1990 or so--I'm heavily into classic rock from the past 40 years or so, but I've been known to throw on some Gershwin or Duke Ellington, or even some disco, from time to time.

I even got accused of being racist for my views. One person I know said if I were to modify a classic I should donk it (donks are the cars that sit up really high and have those giant rims and fan-belt tires). I told him "look if I'm going to modify a car I'll do real mods to it instead of gangster-izing it."

I never understood just *why* you'd want to do that to a car. I mean, jacking up a car that high doesn't do squat for the handling. In fact, it actually makes the car handle worse...because you mess with the vehicle's center of gravity. Oh, and those rubber-band tires on huge rims don't do much for handling either. Sure, they might look cool (not to me!), but they don't do much for the long-term driveability of the vehicle.

With that said, I'm all for keeping the car's stock ride height, or lower. Provided, that you don't do something stupid like cutting coil springs

[HEMI6point1]

I also get annoyed when people are shocked that I don't like the Beatles. They assume I just haven't listened to them, which I have. I just don't see what's so damn special about their songs. It makes some people think I'm out of touch. *shrugs* To each their own.

I'm not a big Beatles fan either, but I'll listen to a song or two once in a while.

The thing about the Beatles is that they were great songwriters. They wrote better songs for 1 album than many other artists did in their whole career.

[daleduke17]

If you raise a vehicle, it better have off road tires or something similar on it. There was a guy in the plaza where I work one day that had a mid-80s era Caprice Classic (or similar) that sat up higher than my stock Dakota. The bad part, I think just ONE of my tires had more rubber than all four of his combined.

As far as music: I hate Slipknot. I just do. Now, I can listen to Stone Sour and Corey Taylor, I just don't like Slipknot. I'm another one of the group to want actual music on the radio. Now, some of the computer generated stuff from nowadays is decent.

Just look at the presets in my truck for what I like: Classic Rock, rock, country, top 40 and two "Jack" stations (Abe FM and BOB).

[Pagan]

I get looked at funny because I listen to classical music. I'm sorry, but Holst's "Mars, Bringer of War" is one of the most awesome pieces of music ever.

The only music I can't stand is country. Which some people around here think is a sin against nature. Sorry, I've tried and I just don't like it.

Of course, I'm racist because as you know all rap artists are black.

Guess they've never heard of Eminem, Beastie Boys, House of Pain, Aesop Rock, Lady Sovereign (who is not only white, but British)....

• "Turbo charge it!"
• "Add nitrousoxide!"
• "Get some sweet spoilers!"

Are you kidding me? Turbocharge a Corvette with that engine? Supercharge, yes. Turbocharge, negative. I think the next person who suggests nitrousoxide in a muscle car should get a serious beating. And spoilers just slow a car down geniuses.

I'm thinking they have seen "The Fast and the Furious" and the others and think know what they're talking about.

I nearly cried when in The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift they put a six-cylinder Japanese engine into a Mustang.

Oh don't get me started on that one and "2 Fast 2 Furious". Both of those were an absolute waste without Vin Diesel (can't wait for "Fast 5").

Another issue is that many artists these days are focused on the single, never the album. 1 or 2 songs may be good then the rest are crappy filler songs.

I'd disagree for some artists, I find I end up liking the other songs on their album more than the singles. I'm pretty sure most of you here don't like her, but I'm a Lady Gaga fan, and her non-single songs are are amazing. Despite what you may think, she has a voice on her.

Love her. Her two albums and Adam Lambert's are the only mainstream CDs I've gotten in over a year and like every song on them.

Even my favorite band ever, Duran Duran, has been guilty of having one or two good songs on a album and the rest is crap. But they seem to have come to their senses again.

This is why I usually go for non-mainstream. If I get a Gaelic Storm CD, I know every song on it is good. Same for Wicked Tinkers, Enya, Loreena McKennitt, Mediaeval Baebes, etc.

[BlaqueKatt]

music on my mp3 player(not an ipod)-that's currently most listened to-in no particular order(I'm 34)-I recommend giving them a listen(holloywood undead covers shout at the devil, and the immigrant song-not bad covers actually)

Firewater(indie rock)
Disturbed(metal)
Skillet(christian metal)
Three days grace(metal)
Nightwish(hard rock-melodic vocals similar to evanescence but better IMHO)
Hollywood undead(rapcore/metal-no samples, they actually play instruments)
Andrew WK(rock-he plays piano)
Dragonforce(fantasy rock)
Shiny toy guns(dance/rock)
Skindred(reggae/rock)
The bloodhound gang(rock/rap)
Emigrate(rock-the guitarist from Rammstein's solo project-sings in english)


as far as cars-my dream car is a chevy el camino super sport.....

[Greenday]

I'm thinking they have seen "The Fast and the Furious" and the others and think know what they're talking about.

Oh don't get me started on that one and "2 Fast 2 Furious". Both of those were an absolute waste without Vin Diesel (can't wait for "Fast 5").

That's my guess. I just hate that people start suggesting stuff and they have no idea how they work. If you don't know the difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger, don't suggest either to me. If you don't know that spoilers just help with handling and turning, don't suggest to me to "make my car faster". It doesn't make the car faster. It's more weight which slows a car down.

...They are coming out with another movie?

[protege]

The bad part, I think just ONE of my tires had more rubber than all four of his combined.

I have a 1959 Radio-Flyer wagon with more rubber on the tires than some of those custom jobs