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  • #16
    Didn't Pixar do A Bug's Life? That movie, btw is just a re-hash of Magnificent Seven, which is the American adaptation of Seven Samurai by Akira Kurosawa.

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    • #17
      There's a very important difference between inspired by/based on, and derivative remakes/sequels. Also, the basic plot of the 7 Samurai is quite simple in it's makeup to the point where there's probably buckets of films that follow a similar plot without even meaning too.
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      • #18
        Another thing to remember is that producers don't like to to risk their investment on original and untried material. More often than not, they will look at something that has performed well in the past (or in another country) and try to give it a modern American look. That's why there are so many remakes these days. It pisses me off, because it looks like Hollywood has no original thoughts left.

        (Though God bless whoever produced Friday the 13th and My Bloody Valentine. I love me some sweaty Padalecki and Ackles in tight shirts)

        If you were looking for originality, you should pay more attention to Independent Film Festivals.

        As for the Karate Kid, I have no plans on seeing it. Not because I don't agree with the casting choices, but just because it looks really crap.
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        • #19
          The fact that Jackie Chan moves like he does is a detriment to his ability to play Mr. Miyagi. I mean, sure, Morita-Miyagi happened to kick 11 different kinds of ass, but I just can't see the character moving quite like him. Miyagi seemed more conservative in his movements, a smarter fighter, perhaps. Chan's style is more like seat-of-your-pants, improvisational, sray-and-pray fighting.

          And don't get me started on the new version of Robin Hood...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
            Anyone who has an issue with Japanese actors playing chinese and vice versa I have to ask what about Australians playing Canadian mutants, English actors playing American Doctors etc.
            Culturally, for the most part the Anglosphere doesn't give a shit. Sure, if the accent comes out so badly done it seems a parody, there will be protest, but the countries have been solid allies for a long time now, and more importantly, solid friends.

            Call a Japanese person Chinese, and you're in for an ass whoopin'. It's taken as a vicious insult. Same for the other Asian cultures.

            You know why? Look at history a bit, how many relatively recent, bloody, utterly savage wars there have been. Much more recent than between any two major Anglosphere cultures.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fire_on_High View Post

              Call a Japanese person Chinese, and you're in for an ass whoopin'. It's taken as a vicious insult. Same for the other Asian cultures.

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              Actually call an Australian English he gets pissed and vice versa, Tell an American with ancestry in England that he looks french man watch out for the fireworks.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by the_std View Post
                Uhm, how about every single one of Pixar's creations? They've almost all been massive hits, and they were all originals.
                I can agree with that, Pixar has been quite creative with their movies and the ones I've seen were very good (Up so far has been my favorite).

                I hate it when people say that Hollywood no longer does anything original. Yes, the remake factory sucks (they've even remade Death At A Funeral, for crying out loud and the original wasn't even five years old!), I hate that they can't just let things go without trying to make money out of them one more time, but that isn't *all* they do. Hollywood still does good things... On occasion.
                Yes but today it seems like there is far more remakes and overly-done storylines / themes than something original.

                Heck, even Harry Potter has been rather original (well, the books have been and the movies haven't been done before). I'll also throw sequels in with the "remakes" - it's generally the same movie but with a different bad guy.

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                • #23
                  Sequels at least deserve a chance. There are plenty that manage to do their own thing while remaining true to the previous installments.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Wingates_Hellsing View Post
                    Sequels at least deserve a chance. There are plenty that manage to do their own thing while remaining true to the previous installments.
                    And then you have Highlander
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Wingates_Hellsing View Post
                      Sequels at least deserve a chance. There are plenty that manage to do their own thing while remaining true to the previous installments.
                      True but rarely is the sequel as good as the original, most of the times it is worse. The only exception is when there is an actual ongoing story (Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Star Wars, etc..) but not when it's seperate movies (Spiderman, Transformers, etc..).

                      The best non-storyline sequel was Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan (but that later turned into a storyline with this as the beginning).

                      Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
                      And then you have Highlander
                      FTW.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Fryk View Post
                        The fact that Jackie Chan moves like he does is a detriment to his ability to play Mr. Miyagi. I mean, sure, Morita-Miyagi happened to kick 11 different kinds of ass, but I just can't see the character moving quite like him. Miyagi seemed more conservative in his movements, a smarter fighter, perhaps. Chan's style is more like seat-of-your-pants, improvisational, sray-and-pray fighting.

                        And don't get me started on the new version of Robin Hood...
                        Except that Jackie Chan is pretty clearly not Mr. Miyagi. If you actually watch the trailers, the movie is going to have Jackie Chan be a kung fu master, teaching Jaden Smith kung fu. The only reason they kept the original name of Karate Kid was because of a marketing decision. To attach it to the movies we loved, and probably because "dumb Americans think karate is a synonym for martial arts".
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                        • #27
                          Ahhhhhhhh, that clears up a lot! The trailer I saw didn't have him named one way or the other. There really needs to be a term for movies that are just there to cash in on previous movies' successes.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Arcade Man D View Post
                            Except that Jackie Chan is pretty clearly not Mr. Miyagi. If you actually watch the trailers, the movie is going to have Jackie Chan be a kung fu master, teaching Jaden Smith kung fu. The only reason they kept the original name of Karate Kid was because of a marketing decision. To attach it to the movies we loved, and probably because "dumb Americans think karate is a synonym for martial arts".
                            That's exactly my point. It shouldn't be the Karate Kid or attached to the franchise because Jaden is clearly not learning Karate.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Arcade Man D View Post
                              "dumb Americans think karate is a synonym for martial arts".
                              Originally posted by Hobbs View Post
                              That's exactly my point. It shouldn't be the Karate Kid or attached to the franchise because Jaden is clearly not learning Karate.
                              What is Karate? Mr. Miyagi did NOT teach Karate. It's probably safe to assume that ~90% of all Dojos in the US that advertise "Karate" are actually teaching Tae Kwan Do. If anything, Karate has about the same meaning as Kung Fu. Neither are "styles" in and of themselves. They're both general terms used for Martial Arts.

                              The only thing that makes your argument hold any weight is the fact that the it takes place in China.

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                              • #30
                                Excuse me? Karate is not the same as Shaolin Kung-fu. The styles are radically different. They may be the closest rooted fighting styles, but they're not the same. It would be the same as saying iaido is the same as taijijian. Yes they both have a sword, but that's pretty much where it ends.

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