Who shalle celebrate with me....

[DarthRetard]

Well yeah, 35 and 15 may be wrong, but what say of, 40 and 20? 38 and 18?

Why is that so wrong? Both are consenting adults who are of legal age to understand the consequences regarding their actions, so why frown upon it?

Many years ago, a Spartan girl could be married as young as 12, I think it was, I know it was young, and Spartan male would be sent off at 8 years old.

From what I understand as well, women physically mature a lot sooner than males, so I see nothing wrong as long as they're two consenting adults.

What Raps was saying is that if I'm 18 and I'm happy about a girl becoming 18, I'm not a pervert, but if I were say, 35, then I'd be a sick bastard. There's a weird, prevalent, unnecessary double standard here, and the pedophilia issue has been played by the media to the point of all old men are perverts, and that's wrong.

Raps, don't forget Demi Moore(the ultimate MILF, imo) and Ashton Kutcher. Their age differences are not small, and I see no one complaining.

[Boozy]

Something I've heard a male friend of mine say:

"I keep getting older, but 16 year-olds remain the same."

Before you jump all over him for being perverted, try to understand what he's saying. When he was 18 years old, he was allowed (if not encouraged) to find 16 year-olds attractive. He still does...sort of. He likes to look, but would never act. He's now outpaced these girls mentally and emotionally, and so there's no basis for a relationship or even a decent conversation.

Most men don't need to appreciate a woman's mind just to enjoy the sight of their breasts. There's nothing wrong with that, and there's nothing immature or perverted about it. Its just the way they're wired.

[Rapscallion]

What I was really saying is that if we're going to start imposing limits, first of all who is going to say what a reasonable limit is, and secondly it's unenforceable anyway. I was more pointing out that to define someone as a sick bastard for finding a young woman of breeding age attractive is ... well, going contrary to nature.

Rapscallion

[Greenday]

Should everyone have their date of birth tattooed on their foreheads so the police can check if a couple at a bar were allowed to be flirting?

That'd make picking up women a lot easier. You could be like, "Hey, how you doin...oh...underage, nevermind."

[Sylvia727]

In a con thread on CS, someone mentioned that inappropriate flirting had gone way down after the con started the wristbands color-coded by overage and underage. The staff did it for alcohol purposes, but the side effect is rather impressive.

With the number of 12-year-olds wearing makeup and letting their bellies hang out, it's no surprise that people have trouble judging age and hitting on people they normally wouldn't. Hell, I'm underage, and I've gotten into bars without being carded just by wearing nicer clothes and letting my hair down. (Not that I took advantage of course.) Pretending to be in high school is also a fun way to chase off middle-aged men who hit on me.

[Seshat]

Pretending to be in high school is also a fun way to chase off middle-aged men who hit on me.

I wish I could still do that.

But yes - as long as both parties are mature enough to understand, and their personalities have matured enough that they're truly capable of consent, I'm cool with whatever they do in the privacy of their own bedroom. Or on their own coffee table with the curtains drawn, for that matter.

So 60 and 18 is fine with me, provided the 18 year old is actually a mature enough personality. (Well, and the 60 year old. A 60 year old with severe mental handicap ... dubious. Get a psychiatric assessment of his/her ability to understand and consent, please.)

[Slytovhand]

Is it just me, or does Emma W still look like a 14-15 year old???

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Yeah, I'm 19, soon to be 20, and as a fan of the movies and Emma Watson, I felt quite guilty thinking she was attractive and not of a legal age. It was really just a joke post. My apologies to all those offended.

As for skeaziness, I don't see what's so skeazy.

Well, Darth, I was gonna chastise you for being sleazy for lusting over someone that young, but then I remembered all the impure thoughts I had watching Smallville and decided to not be that much of a hypocrite. Carry on.

Besides, technically, you're still a teenager.
I am most certainly not a teenager. So you could probably argue that I'm even sleazier than you.

With Love,
Mrs. Robinson

[DesignFox]

By the time it's a 60 year old and a 40 year old, it's not so big a deal. But at 35 and 15, yeah, it really is wrong.

I think this way, too.

As long as they are two consenting adults- that's totally their business.

I may think it's weird for an 18 year old to want to date a 40 year old and vice versa, but I don't condemn them for it, either. They can consent...so..you know whatever...

I just...I dunno. I think it's ok to look...I mean..that's natural...but... I just get visions of creepy old men oggling young girls.

Why would you want to date someone in a different generation from yourself? I mean...really. What could you possibly have in common?

Just my opinion. *shrug*

[Seshat]

Why would you want to date someone in a different generation from yourself? I mean...really. What could you possibly have in common?

A love of art, opera, anime, football, or something?
A common sense of humour?
A compatible set of long-term life plans?
A mutual respect and affection?

Once a personality matures, the basics don't change all that much. Oh, you mature, you become even more yourself, you develop experience and hopefully wisdom. But going back to the 60-and-40-year-old: they're of different generations, but they're not so different they can't have enough in common to form a solid relationship.
A 38-and-18 pairing is a little shakier because the 18 year old typically still has a fair bit of developing to do to become mature. But if both parties are willing to risk the 18 year old 'growing out of' the relationship, they're old enough to understand and choose the risk. And yes, this pairing still has a good chance of having plenty in common.

[Slytovhand]

A love of art, opera, anime, football, or something?
A common sense of humour?
A compatible set of long-term life plans?
A mutual respect and affection?

Once a personality matures, the basics don't change all that much. Oh, you mature, you become even more yourself, you develop experience and hopefully wisdom. But going back to the 60-and-40-year-old: they're of different generations, but they're not so different they can't have enough in common to form a solid relationship.
A 38-and-18 pairing is a little shakier because the 18 year old typically still has a fair bit of developing to do to become mature. But if both parties are willing to risk the 18 year old 'growing out of' the relationship, they're old enough to understand and choose the risk. And yes, this pairing still has a good chance of having plenty in common.

Thanks Seshat.. my sort of thoughts exactly..

I would also add - life.

They'd get to see a different way of viewing the world, in ways different to what they would be used to. That can be a good growing experience for both.

Age is merely a number attached to how long the body has been growing. It doesn't actually say a lot about the person inside it.


Slyt

[powerboy]

Is it just me, or does Emma W still look like a 14-15 year old???

No, I also think that she looks 14-15.

I have dated a woman that was 15 years older than I was. I feel as long as the people are of legal age, than age should not be a problem.

[DesignFox]

I see the point Seshat. My question was more rhetorical.

It's just my personal viewpoint.

Like I said, I'm fine with what consenting adults do. I just, personally, wouldn't do it.

I have plenty of friends in different age brackets. Heck, some of my closest friends in college were 30-50. I just wouldn't consider dating them, you know? Personal thing.

And I agree that there is a difference between 40-60 and 18-38. I think there's a lot of mental maturing that goes on after the teens and twenties. I also acknowledge that everyone is different...so this may not be the case for some people.

I know how different personalities can be. My BF and I are prime examples. We tend to act "older" than other twenty-somethings.

[anriana]

As someone said upthread, there are plenty of things that could have been brought up about sexuality in our culture, why it's socially acceptable to lust after someone who is 17 years and 365 days but not 17 years/364 days, how old the actors are going to be when the HP movies are finally over, etc, etc, but none of that was raised by the original post or first few replies.

I didn't find this thread skeazy because of the ages of the posters, I found it skeazy because of the subject matter. All I got from this was "I'm going to fap to Emma Watson, diggity diggity dig!"

I realize I am fairly new to Fratching/CS and may not be totally aware of the culture, but I was under the impression that this is a debate board, not a locker room.

[DarthRetard]

Well, you also don't know myself, Greenday, or any of the rest of us as it comes to our senses of humor then. I apologize if it came out in an offending manner, honestly, I do. I just found it coincidental that on April 15th, a day us American dread, one of my favorite actresses reaches true adulthood.