Worst Movies Ever

[Greenday]

Imagine what the sequel's going to be like then.

...Sequel? Why!?

[Nyoibo]

...Sequel? Why!?

Simple answer? Because they can.

[Talon]

I liked The Village, too.

I liked the first part of it. Post-twist everything fell apart.

I nominate Starship Troopers.
I don't know if the makers were going for horror-action, or some kind of satire of facist propaganda, and I don't care. The end result is loud, obnoxious, preposterous, pretentious, subtle as a brick through a window, no sense of pacing, and so mind-numbingly stupid as to cause zombies to starve. "Would you like to know more?" I'd like to have NEVER known, thanks.

[Nyoibo]

I think they were trying for satire of the books satire, but failed.

[fireheart17]

Imagine what the sequel's going to be like then.

So far its been refused classification in the UK but apparaently is getting an R rating in Australia.

And the sequel is just....

It's like a disgusting porn film. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Centipede_II

[Greenday]

I nominate Starship Troopers.
I don't know if the makers were going for horror-action, or some kind of satire of facist propaganda, and I don't care. The end result is loud, obnoxious, preposterous, pretentious, subtle as a brick through a window, no sense of pacing, and so mind-numbingly stupid as to cause zombies to starve. "Would you like to know more?" I'd like to have NEVER known, thanks.

Well, Robert Heinlein wrote the book decades ago. It was political satire. I feel like they nailed it pretty well. The extremeness of everyone's attitudes towards dedication to the service makes the movie seem over the top, but it seems in line with Heinlein's attitudes.

[Racket_Man]

Well, Robert Heinlein wrote the book decades ago. It was political satire. I feel like they nailed it pretty well. The extremeness of everyone's attitudes towards dedication to the service makes the movie seem over the top, but it seems in line with Heinlein's attitudes.

but the movie was completely different from the book. the movie was just some action blow-em-up, shoot-em up, kill-em up movie with a little bit of the book and the history of the "world" thrown in at the beginning.

I read the book after seeing the movie. I found it to be more of a political statement novel (like something Allan Drury would write) than an action in space novel.

I get the policitcal aspect of the book, but the movie sort of glossed over it after about 30 minutes esp the 2 years of Federal Service which in the book can range from the military to medical experiments and all who choose to do Service MUST be found a Service to do. in the movie it is just the Military

[Greenday]

but the movie was completely different from the book. the movie was just some action blow-em-up, shoot-em up, kill-em up movie with a little bit of the book and the history of the "world" thrown in at the beginning.

I read the book after seeing the movie. I found it to be more of a political statement novel (like something Allan Drury would write) than an action in space novel.

I get the policitcal aspect of the book, but the movie sort of glossed over it after about 30 minutes

It wasn't blunt in there like the book but it was part of the movie, however subtle it was. Starship Troopers 3 does more justice to that aspect.

[Rapscallion]

but the movie was completely different from the book. the movie was just some action blow-em-up, shoot-em up, kill-em up movie with a little bit of the book and the history of the "world" thrown in at the beginning.

I read the book after seeing the movie. I found it to be more of a political statement novel (like something Allan Drury would write) than an action in space novel.

I get the policitcal aspect of the book, but the movie sort of glossed over it after about 30 minutes esp the 2 years of Federal Service which in the book can range from the military to medical experiments and all who choose to do Service MUST be found a Service to do. in the movie it is just the Military

I actually liked both - the movie version brought out far more for me how the system turned an idealist into yet another cog in the military machine.

Rapscallion

[Ginger Tea]

on that guy with the glasses Spoony, Benzai and Ed Glaser discussed 3 Verhoven movies (not in detail) Robocop, Starship Troopers and Total Recall. Spoony said that he watched Troopers and hated it first time round as a movie, then later he got to see the intended satire of it and brought up (or one of them did) a fact I just ignored as part of a sloppy story.

The meteorite that wipes out Buenoz Aires (sorry can not be arsed to look up the spelling) could have hit anywhere on earth, but more importantly, a rock sent via another star system to smash into the Earth? what's the math like for that, intentionally hitting the Earth with a giant rock sent from another planet?

Granted they could use one of our many asteroids, but part of the discussion was "this could have hit us even if we didn't ever meet the bugs and go to war" It hit so they had a reason to rally the populace into conflict.

[Nyoibo]

It wasn't blunt in there like the book but it was part of the movie, however subtle it was. Starship Troopers 3 does more justice to that aspect.

I thought ST3 went a bit too far, to the point of it being blind obedience and non-questioning loyalty. Also, did anyone else thing "These guys have been playing way too much Starcraft" for ST3?

[jackfaire]

Some of these movies it's not so much the movie itself as the fans. Think the guy in Family Guy who keeps beating people's faces in with pictures of his kids. Some fans are like that with movies.

Phantom of the Opera

(originally I just wasn't interested but once people acted like my saying that was the equivalent of killing babies I started to hate it. BTW not exaggerating a guy I knew started sobbing and left the house we were hanging out in because I said I didn't like the movie.)

Brazil - I get what the movie was trying to say but V for Vendetta did it better and in a more entertaining way.

Fight Club - Because people miss where the people "stopping being sheep" become even more like mindless sheep than they were before Tyler Durden

SLC Punk - Because people seem to think "Yaaaay it endorses being an anarchist" instead of noticing the ending of the film that points out standing outside of the system calling it stupid didn't get them anywhere.

Inception - Let's make a mind blowing movie about surrealism that is neither mind blowing nor surrealist. Seriously Requim for a Dream was more surrealist than this.

Matrix - Let's take the Thirteenth Floor dumb down the questioning reality concept and make it an action movie.

The Village - I liked it better when it was a book called Running out of Time

Suburban Commando - We threw that wrestler you liked a few years back, the family with the down trodden dad that finally learns to stand up to a boss that seems to delight in emasculating his employees, and a Star Wars parody into the paint mixer. Odd it came out puke color.

Every "Sequel" that either has to ignore the ending of the previous movie that makes a sequel impossible or forces a continuation of a story that had been wrapped up so well it made Christmas elves burst into sparkles in delight. (There is in my experience only one exception to this that being Evil Dead 2 which was really just a cheap way of doing a remake so that they could make the incredibly epic flick Army of Darkness)

Star Wars - All of them. Oh wait I am sorry the original trilogy more so as everyone suffered from criminal incompetence.

1) A New Hope you have a weapon that blows up planets and you don't fire it on the rebels yet because your waiting to get around the PLANET that is in the way. Uhm duh?

2) A New Hope your clear shot on Skywalker is messed up by a pilot panicking and damaging your ship.

3) A New Hope your Mentor commits to a fight he knows he will lose to buy you some extra time to get on the ship and get away. You instead spend the extra time watching him in said fight.

4) The Empire Strikes Back your base is being advanced upon by Imperial Walkers which have fixed position guns that have extremely like almost no range of movement. Your strategy position your ships in their small window of visibility to warn them your coming and then aim your ship for their weapons fire. Celebrate being killed by haunting Luke who ordered the dumbass plan.

5) Return of the Jedi assume your sister is dead even though you have displayed psychic level abilities, like knowing your father is present and knowing that Leia is your sister.

[blas87]

Well, not to nitpick, but judging by the popular opinion of George Lucas, it's problematic when you have an incredible imagination, but you can't convey it into proper dialogue and movements. He had great ideas, but he needed a world of help with the writing, dialogue, and direction of characters.

[jackfaire]

Well, not to nitpick, but judging by the popular opinion of George Lucas, it's problematic when you have an incredible imagination, but you can't convey it into proper dialogue and movements. He had great ideas, but he needed a world of help with the writing, dialogue, and direction of characters.

What's funny is I loved the movies as a kid but someone pointed out logic flaws and those trip up my logic based brain. Now I can't watch them without yelling at the screen.

[blas87]

We had, no lie, a several hour conversation about this very topic the other night at work.

Just about every single flaw from the original three movies, we covered.